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26 Dec 2015, 8:59 pm

Obviously it is not severe as you are taking the time to read this. This is just for me to be able to measure how self-managed Autistic behavior is, if it is at all.



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26 Dec 2015, 9:38 pm

I don't understand how to fit in socially and have trouble making friends. I prefer to spend time on my special interests than be with friends. I have meltdowns. I tend to get really obsessed over certain things/people. I also stim.

As an aside, I don't think that being able to read this means your autism isn't severe. There are, or were in the past, a few posters here who have severe autism.



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26 Dec 2015, 10:16 pm

TheAP wrote:
I don't understand how to fit in socially and have trouble making friends. I prefer to spend time on my special interests than be with friends. I have meltdowns. I tend to get really obsessed over certain things/people. I also stim.

As an aside, I don't think that being able to read this means your autism isn't severe. There are, or were in the past, a few posters here who have severe autism.
I have no idea. I am just learning about this. Or, I may not understand the question.....But the above is me and a few other things. As for severity, I had time to spend with my grandson and I did see that his Asperger's is more severe than mine.


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26 Dec 2015, 10:33 pm

There is no know specific cause (or group of causes) that make anyone autistic.

My autism presents as social ineptness, physical clumsiness, and sensitivity to bright light and loud sound. I can also focus intently on a single problem until I've found a resolution - provided the problem has nothing to do with relationships.



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26 Dec 2015, 10:54 pm

Not sure I understand the question.


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26 Dec 2015, 11:16 pm

Sensory issues, I hate people, but I can't live without them.


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27 Dec 2015, 12:15 am

Is the question either:
a) what defines us as Aspie?
b) What caused the condition?


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27 Dec 2015, 6:01 am

It´s a difficult question and I don´t think, it can be answered - apart from certain traits, we all seem to share, like difficulty reading social situations fast enough, like being literate and prone to misunderstanding others and being misunderstood because of a different mindset from the average NT - whatever that is.

I tried to "pump" my psychologist for absolute "proof" of autism, but she made me understand, that a bunch of certain traits is no guarantee for somebody being autisic/aspie-or-what-you-want-to-call-it.

It is the whole package, that is giving the expert a clue.
It´s the way you think and percieve - certain sensory things will be typical - but again: There is so much overlap:
A infantile autistic can be called IA, because of an early speech delay, but end up as a completely capable "aspie" with a good career, and an "aspie"(also called "mildly affected"), who reached all milestones in time, may turn out to become a very needy adult suffering from severe disability in several areas, or being unable to hold down an ordinary job, - so the fine line really isn´t there anymore.

A Mom with an aspie child asked Tony Attwood what to call her boy - autistic or Aspergerian.
Attwood adviced her to call him whatever would provide him with the best service.


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27 Dec 2015, 12:24 pm

Executive Dysfunction, Social Atypicality, Atypical thinking, poor theory of mind in certain areas, special interests, stimming, some sensory sensitivities


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27 Dec 2015, 12:34 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
.....Atypical thinking, poor theory of mind in certain areas......
Interesting terms and are new to me. Can you elaborate? Thanks :)


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27 Dec 2015, 12:43 pm

When people have enough autistic traits to negatively impact their quality of life and when the traits are pervasive.



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27 Dec 2015, 12:50 pm

Going in order of my diagnostic bulletpoints:

1. I can't talk to most kids my age. I have trouble with situational cues.

2. I have trouble expressing empathy.

3. I obsess over one topic at a time for a few weeks on end.

4. I have stims, repetitive rhythmic motions to relax me.

5. I have certain routines that I have to follow.

6. I'm fascinated by objects, always touching them, thinking about textures, turning them over in my hand.

7. I have acute senses that annoy my parents.



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27 Dec 2015, 1:51 pm

Starfoxx wrote:
When people have enough autistic traits to negatively impact their quality of life and when the traits are pervasive.


Exactly.


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27 Dec 2015, 2:23 pm

Starfoxx wrote:
When people have enough autistic traits to negatively impact their quality of life and when the traits are pervasive.

I don't mean to be argumentative, but:
- I wonder how one measures "quality of life"
- I also wonder how one determines that one's autistic traits alone are solely responsible for a diminished "quality of life"

While I could be wrong, I suspect that, as humans, we over estimate the "quality of life" of others and underestimate our own "quality of life" (based upon some ideal or feeling of entitlement). I also suspect that we are quick to attach “reasons” to explain why things are the way they are (in terms of a diminished “qualify of life” vis a vis some expectation).

Going back to the topic, I think what makes someone autistic is having traits that match the diagnostic criteria. While I was diagnosed with Asperger's (back in 2013), I consider myself very "mildly" autistic. Also, I have no idea how these traits impacted my "quality of life", as it is impossible to separate myself from these traits (as they have always been part of who I am as a human being). Also, I know most people in the world suffer far more than I do.



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27 Dec 2015, 2:56 pm

Negative impact could mean inability to hold down a job due to ASD related problems. This would reduce quality of life because of poverty. Just an example.


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27 Dec 2015, 3:20 pm

zkydz wrote:
Is the question either:
a) what defines us as Aspie?
b) What caused the condition?





Both