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Droosie
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25 Aug 2018, 11:38 am

Hello all,

I’ve known for a long time that I am not neurotypical. I’ve a lifelong history of difficulties which have caused me many issues over the years.

Now in that time (I am now 52) I have grown and adjusted to life, I’ve made changes in some areas as I’ve learned about what is and is not socially right/wrong. I am female so am very good on the whole with social stuff although I find it hard.

My son who is now 15 is autistic and was diagnosed at age 7. When he was diagnosed a light bulb went on for me as I suddenly realised that this could explain my own difficulties as a child. Prior and after diagnosis my son has been described as “not dissimilar to (me) as a child).

I have spent the past 7 years asking my GPs (various GPs) for referral so I could be assessed and been fobbed off every time.

Then back in November I saw a new GP and she actually listened and referred me. I finally saw a psychologist last week who went through the DISCO questionnaire. It was a very very thorough assessment of around 5 hours with my Mum present to answer the childhood stuff.

The final outcome of all that was that I didn’t meet the criteria for ASC diagnosis but that I had definite autistic traits. I also had ADHD traits and sensory processing disorder. So borderline autism but not quite.

It seems I come under the umbrella of neurodevelopment disorder non specific.

In a way this is okay as it confirms my own knowledge that I am not neurotypical but it seems something of a nothing diagnosis. Not neurotypical but.....I don’t quite fit in anywhere.

Anyone else like this?



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25 Aug 2018, 12:24 pm

Yes, there are many others like this and it is a perfectly appropriate space in which to find oneself. If you look up the “broad autism phenotype” or “broader autism phenotype” or “BAP,” you will find threads here at Wrong Planet, as well as websites elsewhere, that talk about people who have autistic traits but who aren’t diagnosed as autistic. BAP traits are more frequently found in first degree relatives of diagnosed autistics and to a lesser extent among second degree relatives. But BAP traits can occur in anyone, regardless of family autism history.

A formal diagnosis of autism technically requires that the autism-related traits produce functional challenges that are severe and pervasive. For this reason, Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) acts as something of a “gatekeeper” diagnosis. Obtaining it opens up access to a larger set of more intense services than would otherwise be allowable with other diagnoses. Because these services are expensive, there is some pressure (from insurance companies, governments, etc.) to restrict just who gets the ASD diagnosis. If one has only minor or time-limited kinds of problems from autistic traits, then other diagnosis may be sufficient for dealing with them. For example, research has shown that those who are considered BAP have elevated incidence of anxiety and depression. But for them, an anxiety disorder or clinical depression diagnosis may be all that is needed to gain access to the right kinds of services and medications.

There are two important caveats, however. First, one must carefully consider the impact of one’s personal, informal coping strategies for dealing with the impact of the autistic traits. These skills can be more and less effective. There are some people, for example, whose coping strategies are successful enough that they encounter few problems in daily life and are none the worse for it. There are others who cope successfully interpersonally, but whose emotional wellbeing is drained by the effort. And there are yet others who continue to have substantial interpersonal and emotional challenges, and who have had long histories of varied diagnoses and/or run-ins with authority figures. The first set would arguably least need an ASD diagnosis. The third set would very much benefit from finally getting the correct diagnosis. Second, one must keep in mind that women typically have a harder time getting diagnosed because their symptoms don’t always align as closely with the stereotypical presentation of ASD.

If either caveat seems relevant to you, then a second opinion could be in order. However, getting that second opinion may be easier said than done, given the more general challenges of identifying someone who can diagnose adults.



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25 Aug 2018, 12:41 pm

When I look around my mom's side of my family, I see a fair bit of autistic traits, although I'm the only one with an ASD diagnosis and I don't think most of them would be diagnosed if assessed. So, while I'm not in the same situation as you, I think many people in my family might be.

Here's an article about people are BAP but not diagnosis with ASD. Have a read; I bet it describes you.
http://www.asknz.net/uploads/2/9/3/7/29 ... ectrum.pdf


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25 Aug 2018, 3:14 pm

Thank you for the replies and that link was great, described me very well.

I am glad to have been assessed (even if I don’t fit neatly in anywhere) as simply knowing I am neurodiverse is helpful to me in understanding why I continue to struggle.

The criteria for diagnosing adults in the UK seems very tight. I do wonder if I was presenting as a child now what they might say. Back in the early 1970s when I was a small child it was simply that my brain “worked differently to other children”.

I am looking at the various labels and seeing the issues I have from each. I am chaotic and untidy, organisation is a struggle, I get overwhelmed with stuff, I have meltdowns (god knows how my husband copes with me lol) I am clumsy and frequently drop stuff or trip (but don’t fit into dyspraxia fully).

More than anything though it’s about looking at what strategies help these things and trying to apply them to myself.



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27 Aug 2018, 5:02 pm

OP may have mild ASD or broader autism phenotype in my opinion.

I could ask some questions to OP:
1. When do you started to talk?
2. Do you experience sensory overloads or have very sensitive senses (or the opposite)?
3. Do you have the need of sameness and predictability?
4. Do you have intuitive theory of mind?
5. Do you think in pictures or non-verbally in other way?
6. Was you bullied in school?
7. What was your eye contact in childhood?
8. Do you have any special interests?
9. Do you have OCD?
10. Do you have problems with recognising people or prosopoagnosia?
11. Do you have autostimulating behaviors (stimming)?