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08 Jan 2016, 11:09 pm

I'm going to start describing sociopaths and psychopaths as "hyper-typical".

Do you have an opinion about this?

If you do I would love to hear it?

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09 Jan 2016, 12:14 am

'Hyper' makes them sound super.
And I would prefer not to think of those people as 'typical'.

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09 Jan 2016, 2:34 am

Hyper often has a negative connotation as if something is overloaded.

Autism is characterized by a deficit to manipulate/communicate with others.

Neurotypicals have no such clear deficit.

Sociopaths and psychopaths live in a world where their personal success lies in their ability to manipulate/communicate with others and they are usually quite good at it.

But what I said probably doesn't make any sense does it?

Because you would consider manipulate and communicate to be two separate things?

Wouldn't you?

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09 Jan 2016, 2:56 am

You should never make assumptions.

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09 Jan 2016, 3:50 am

Raleigh wrote:

You should never make assumptions.

...Though we should strive to make educated guesses.

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09 Jan 2016, 4:50 am

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

You should never make assumptions.

...Though we should strive to make educated guesses.

I would discourage those too if you don't know the audience.

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09 Jan 2016, 5:04 am

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

You should never make assumptions.

...Though we should strive to make educated guesses.

I would discourage those too if you don't know the audience.

You would? That's a shame.

From my perspective, if no one ever made common and/or logical assumptions during a conversation, then they would be (in my experience) needlessly long and convoluted. I feel that making assumptions can fast forward on a pointless segment of conversation, in order to fast track to heart of a concern and/or issue.

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09 Jan 2016, 5:07 am

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

You should never make assumptions.

...Though we should strive to make educated guesses.

I would discourage those too if you don't know the audience.

Except when the assumptions are wrong.

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09 Jan 2016, 5:32 am

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

You should never make assumptions.

...Though we should strive to make educated guesses.

I would discourage those too if you don't know the audience.

Except when the assumptions are wrong.

Even when assumptions are incorrect, they are a simple thing to correct, and the time saved by making initial assumptions often more than compensates the time spent correcting assumptions.

As time progresses and a persons experience grows, they are able to make ever more accurate assumptions, and one of the key points of adaptation in this conversational skill is learning from failed assumptions.

I've made assumptions all my life, in the beginning I made a lot of mistakes, but nowadays I can read most people, and situations very well, and by making educated guesses about them I can cut down the amount of time it takes to get to know them/learn about them significantly.

A question for you Raleigh, you're advising Dennis Prichard to "never make assumptions", but I've never known of anyone who hasn't at least made some basic assumptions about people/things. So are you advocating it because it is a well known saying, or because you yourself never make assumptions about anything?

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09 Jan 2016, 5:43 am

Like I said, never make assumptions.
You misunderstood me completely.

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09 Jan 2016, 5:46 am

Raleigh wrote:

Like I said, never make assumptions.
You misunderstood me completely.

Not answering the question then?
You seem to be doing that a lot.

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09 Jan 2016, 5:55 am

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

Like I said, never make assumptions.
You misunderstood me completely.

Not answering the question then?
You seem to be doing that a lot.

It's a hobby of mine.

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09 Jan 2016, 6:11 am

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

Like I said, never make assumptions.
You misunderstood me completely.

Not answering the question then?
You seem to be doing that a lot.

It's a hobby of mine.

Perhaps you should consider a new hobby.
This one comes off as being very antisocial, and even a little troll-like.
Not that I'm implying that you're either of those.

It often goes a long way to explain yourself.
Simply telling some that they misunderstood you, without explaining what they misunderstood tells that person nothing. Information is the life blood of any and all conversations, without information a conversation will wither and die.

You say that you misunderstood me, yet I can see no other way that the conversation could be misunderstood. You keep telling not to make assumptions, yet you're not explaining why you keep saying it. So I'm asking you, Raleigh, why do you keep advocating that someone should never make assumptions?

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09 Jan 2016, 6:20 am

Idealist, what do you think the original post is about?
Why would the OP be classifying people under a new heading and asking for our opinion?
What is your assumption on that?

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09 Jan 2016, 6:33 am

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist, what do you think the original post is about?
Why would the OP be classifying people under a new heading and asking for our opinion?
What is your assumption on that?

It is considered impolite to ask someone questions without first answering theirs.
In short, a conversation is an exchange of give and take, and I have already given plenty.

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09 Jan 2016, 6:48 am

Idealist wrote:

Raleigh wrote:

Idealist, what do you think the original post is about?
Why would the OP be classifying people under a new heading and asking for our opinion?
What is your assumption on that?

It is considered impolite to ask someone questions without first answering theirs.
In short, a conversation is an exchange of give and take, and I have already given plenty.

I made the mistake of assuming this thread was about the word "hypertypical".
I gave my opinion of the word.
I no longer think this thread is about analysing a word.
Unless it's the word "assumption".

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