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14 Jan 2016, 2:02 pm

I find there's so much stereotyping about NTs here, and I find it more irritating than stereotypes about Autism.

A lot of Aspies seem to think that no NT lives with their parents after the age of 18, all have one interest which is parties, alcohol and sex, hate anything to do with education, are married with kids by age 22, and are all emotionally well-adjusted.

Some stereotypes about NTs here even get mixed up, like in some threads I hear Aspies go, ''I'm glad I have Asperger's, if I were NT I would just be working in a dead-end job all my life'', presuming that stereotype is implying that NTs are unable to get good jobs because they are ''stupid'' and hate studying. Then in other threads Aspies go, ''I wish I was NT, because then I will be in a well-paid job..'' I feel the latter is more true, but not necessarily. Some NTs are just more successful than others.
It's common for NTs to have a craze of partying and drinking when they are young, and some make it a routine to party every week-end for years, and others begin to feel that it's not that much of a big deal and would rather do other things with their lives.

And finally, the most annoying stereotype of all, is ''NTs have no interest in anything except socializing'', also meaning, ''NTs who go to college and university are only doing it because their friends are, they have no desire for the classes they are actually taking'', and, ''NTs don't study or work out of interest or enjoyment, they just want good money so they put up with it just for the money.''
That is all false too. Yes there are some people out there who are just in for it only for the money, but that doesn't define NT. I know an NT girl who is obsessed with beauty, and started off by doing a health and beauty course at college, then done some voluntary work at a local hair-dressers, which she stuck with so that in the end she got a job there. But she wants to get into a beauty parlour doing makeovers on people and other stuff like that, so she's still gaining experience by working her way towards getting her desired job. And she is not into beauty just because her friends are. She chose this path herself.


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14 Jan 2016, 2:14 pm

Indeed....if you've met one NT, you've met one NT

Just like if you met one autistic person, you met one autistic person.



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14 Jan 2016, 3:49 pm

I suppose Aspies see NTs as these intensely social beings that love partying and hate anything else, just like NTs see Aspies as nerdy emotionless beings obsessed with trains.

I suppose it's common for Aspies to be black and white thinkers though, unlike me. I always see the grey areas in everything, so this is why I feel irked when I see Aspies here seeing things as either black or white. I feel I have to voice my thoughts.


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14 Jan 2016, 4:05 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Indeed....if you've met one NT, you've met one NT

Just like if you met one autistic person, you met one autistic person.


Yep :). Right after I was diagnosed, when trying to help my dad understand what autism/asperger's is I remember saying something like this.


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14 Jan 2016, 4:12 pm

Despite my strong need for rules and my tendency for black and white thinking, I do get quite annoyed by stereotypes. That may be something to do with being a lifelong tomboy and of course generally just never quite fitting anyone's 'mould'.


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14 Jan 2016, 4:20 pm

There is another stereotype that they are bullies and like picking on people who are different. But I have seen plenty of anti bullying posts online written by none ASD people.


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14 Jan 2016, 4:36 pm

Yes, Stereotypes are very irritating in general. No need to be perpetuating them here as well.



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14 Jan 2016, 4:43 pm

Funny stereotypes... Such stereotypes barely fit my current residental culture. :lol: Let alone individually.
The west is surely is overrepresented and overrated as far as I could see from here.

And oh, not all NTs do eye contact in a.. "Natural" way. :lol:


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14 Jan 2016, 4:54 pm

There have many negatives about growing up and growing old in the unrecognized, undiagnosed era. But a positive aspect of not knowing any better is I was forced to interact with people and therefore met many different types of people with all sorts of personalties. And most likely 98 percent of these people were NT's.


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14 Jan 2016, 4:54 pm

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14 Jan 2016, 8:18 pm

Joe90 wrote:
I find there's so much stereotyping about NTs here, and I find it more irritating than stereotypes about Autism.


Those "stereotypes" all sound so much unrealistic to me!
This forum is a simple the proof that Aspies want to understand NT world.
Please, just imagine you are watching a Zombie film: First images: In the silent night of an old country, only cold Zombies, with no facial expression, gazing strange, all walking alone, slowly and looking down at the ground, all dressed with the same basic clothe, going nowhere, not speaking or speaking another language on monotonous voice, empty streets, nobody saying hello, no entertainment, barely no light, no time, no dates, only silence, ...
And now, congratulations, you are chosen to LIVE in this zombie movie! Welcome to Zombie Land.
So, during ten years, you make integration efforts, trying to walk like a zombie , gaze like a zombie, talk like a zombie , dress like a zombie , scream like a zombie ,… (But this is not a game, this is your life).
You are very very bad at doing the Zombie. The other zombies laugh at you: “Look at this stupid Zombie”.

After the ten years in the Zombie land, on day, you meet an human like you on an internet forum :) , understanding you :), walking and talking "normal" like you ,...

... would you or would you not: drop some "irritating" lines about the zombies on the forum?



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14 Jan 2016, 8:38 pm

I certainly don't see NTs as party animals that only like to do crazy things. But I do see them as much more social.


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14 Jan 2016, 8:41 pm

Sometimes (ironically like autistic people, at times), they are slaves to routine and tradition.

My wife, like clockwork, HAS to give the house a thorough cleaning around Easter and Christmas. And she HAS to to shopping during the weekend, even when she has the "death of cold."



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14 Jan 2016, 8:43 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Sometimes (ironically like autistic people, at times), they are slaves to routine and tradition.

My wife, like clockwork, HAS to give the house a thorough cleaning around Easter and Christmas. And she HAS to to shopping during the weekend, even when she has the "death of cold."
It is amazing what social conditioning will do.


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14 Jan 2016, 8:47 pm

Yep....social conditioning!

Why can't my wife just let me be by my lonesome? LOL



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14 Jan 2016, 8:50 pm

My wife can be very ritualistic when it comes to some things. But, it never really throws her for a loop when something interrupts her or takes her away from what she was doing. If that happens to me, I get anxious. Depending on what I'm doing, I can get very, very anxious.


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