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DestinedToBeAPotato
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02 Feb 2016, 6:38 pm

I do not know how to describe this. But it has become increasingly more apparent that I have no thoughts of my own: call it mental echolalia, if you will. The "thoughts" are not mine.
I cannot formulate my own ideas.
I do not have an opinion.

I cannot derive information from books, poems or music - that would required thought, emotion, opinion. There is nothing. Just blankness.


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02 Feb 2016, 6:45 pm

<--- His mind is the opposite of empty. A roaring vortex of ideas and deeds left undone, actually. Keeps him up at night.



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02 Feb 2016, 7:40 pm

My head is also the opposite of empty. I have endless thoughts and ideas. My brain won't quiet down.



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02 Feb 2016, 8:26 pm

I wish I had a more active brain. I tend to be overly linear in thought.



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02 Feb 2016, 8:40 pm

Well, you're reminding me of the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz ...
... partly because I've recently been inspired to do a painting of the Yellow Brick Road
passing by an old barn ...

So my head is now filled all right ...
with the following song:

" I would not be just a nuffin' my head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain.
I would dance and be merry, life would be a ding-a-derry,
If I only had a brain." :D

Yeah, right ...
back to the old drawing board ...

...



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02 Feb 2016, 9:04 pm

My mind is pretty blank when I am not actively working on something.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:01 pm

DestinedToBeAPotato wrote:
I do not know how to describe this. But it has become increasingly more apparent that I have no thoughts of my own: call it mental echolalia, if you will. The "thoughts" are not mine.
I cannot formulate my own ideas.
I do not have an opinion.

I cannot derive information from books, poems or music - that would required thought, emotion, opinion. There is nothing. Just blankness.

Potato, is this new? If so, what is different? Have you had a change in meds or anything?

There have been times in my life when I just felt disconnected from myself - unmoored. Floating directionless.

Is that what you are talking about?

Journaling might help. When you put a thought down in written form, if your mind wanders, at least you can figure out where you were a moment before.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:12 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
My mind is pretty blank when I am not actively working on something.


I cannot even imagine what it would be like to have a blank mind. I can't even meditate because my mind never stops.



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02 Feb 2016, 10:15 pm

Yigeren wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
My mind is pretty blank when I am not actively working on something.


I cannot even imagine what it would be like to have a blank mind. I can't even meditate because my mind never stops.


What is going through your mind when you are not doing a specific thing?
Since my mind is often blank when I am not doing something, I have to do things all the time to avoid boredom.
If I have nothing to do, I am so bored.
I can't meditate though, I have no idea what state of mind I am supposed to go for in meditation.
It can't be the blank boringness.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:23 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
What is going through your mind when you are not doing a specific thing?


Music, thoughts of things that happened that day, analyzing numerous things in my head, hypothetical conversations, whatever. I sing a lot, because there's often music in my head. There's a huge catalogue of songs in there.

I'm always analyzing something. I will think about anything that catches my eye or pops into my mind, and mentally pick it apart to figure it out. My mind will seize on anything.

If I have nothing to do, I will make something to do. I can entertain myself with just about anything if I have to.



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02 Feb 2016, 10:30 pm

When I do something, I get many ideas like virus pop up window appearing one on top of another.
When I don't do something, my mind is like vegetable.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:32 pm

You could use your "vegetable" state of mind to try meditation. It has many health benefits, as well as psychological ones. I wish I could make it work for me.



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02 Feb 2016, 10:40 pm

I did try meditation, but it didn't work for me.
I just felt a horrible boredom.
I think possibly my vegetable mind is what some people want to get in meditation, because they have many thoughts going through their minds when they are not doing anything, so to them, it would be great to have vegetable mind through meditation.
But to me, it is just boredom, so I have to do something.
And the thing has to be at a fast rate or complex, otherwise I feel bored again.
Simple and fast or complex are both good, but simple and slow causes boredom.
I don't like to relax, because it is boring.
I don't understand how people can lay on the beach and enjoy doing nothing.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:45 pm

Haha, if I were relaxed on the beach, I'd fall asleep and get sunburned.

I think there are different types of meditation. The idea is to be calm and to help focus, I guess. I don't know though, because I only managed to do it once.



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02 Feb 2016, 10:51 pm

What does meditation feel like from this one time that you did it?
I have no idea what it would feel like.
I enjoy the flow mental state of doing things.
That is a great feeling.


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03 Feb 2016, 1:04 am

Yigeren wrote:
Haha, if I were relaxed on the beach, I'd fall asleep and get sunburned.

I think there are different types of meditation. The idea is to be calm and to help focus, I guess. I don't know though, because I only managed to do it once.

Yoga is a form of meditative practice, but it isn't boring, because the teacher gives you things to concentrate on, and keeps it moving so it doesn't get boring. However, due to the focus on the breath as well as the sensations and actions of the body, it does calm and relax a person. The key is that you aren't focusing on whatever your worries are, but rather on the way you are holding your body and the way you are breathing.

So those of you who find it hard to empty or slow down the mind, might benefit from yoga.


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