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11 Jan 2014, 12:02 pm

I live in Québec, Canada and I want to own firearms when I turn 18 (mostly shotguns, some rifles, a few handguns). Is there a chance that I might be denied a permit based on my Asperger diagnosis? Do I have to declare my Asperger diagnosis? Do I have legal recourses if I am discriminated for my condition?



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11 Jan 2014, 12:18 pm

A man with Asperger's Syndrome will not be denied that here in America. In Canada (my source is a Canadian shopping in the UP of Michigan because of strict laws), you can't even have you ammo in the same locked container as your guns. On top of that, they won't let you shoot your guns unless they know you are at an approved firing range. To most of you Canadians who continue to exercise your right to a gun, I commend you. You as well. From what I heard from this guy, he can't even use his gun in self defence. But he was an old K'nook, so I am not completely sure he was telling me the truth. If I was a Canadian, my guns would be martial arts skill. You are a tough man, good for you for trying to. I don't think they would go as far as to deny you a gun, but don't bring Asperger's up. Some idiot will think your crazy and rob you of your rights. Unless you think you might hurt yourself, you are clear to get guns in my opinion.


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11 Jan 2014, 12:24 pm

look up the laws. google it. in america, you cannot be convicted of a violent crime. that is it. you could be legally blind, with no hands, and get a gun permit in america.



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11 Jan 2014, 12:56 pm

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A man with Asperger's Syndrome will not be denied that here in America. In Canada (my source is a Canadian shopping in the UP of Michigan because of strict laws), you can't even have you ammo in the same locked container as your guns. On top of that, they won't let you shoot your guns unless they know you are at an approved firing range. To most of you Canadians who continue to exercise your right to a gun, I commend you. You as well. From what I heard from this guy, he can't even use his gun in self defence. But he was an old K'nook, so I am not completely sure he was telling me the truth. If I was a Canadian, my guns would be martial arts skill. You are a tough man, good for you for trying to. I don't think they would go as far as to deny you a gun, but don't bring Asperger's up. Some idiot will think your crazy and rob you of your rights. Unless you think you might hurt yourself, you are clear to get guns in my opinion.


Actually the law is that you can use a firearm only if you're attacked by a firearm.

So if a muscular thug with a knife attacks a meek old lady with a revolver and she uses her revolver to save herself, she could face jail time.

All this to ''protect Canadians from violent crimes with firearms''.

But hey, you gotta do what you gotta do to please the left!



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11 Jan 2014, 2:30 pm

I don't know the laws of Quebec but where I live in America you don't even need to register your guns or get a permit to conceal or open carry let alone just own one. Lot of Canadian snowbirds coincidentally.



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11 Jan 2014, 6:14 pm

yournamehere wrote:
look up the laws. google it. in america, you cannot be convicted of a violent crime. that is it. you could be legally blind, with no hands, and get a gun permit in america.


You are a victim of propaganda.

In the US, you must go through a background check of FBI records, to determine whether you have ever been convicted of a felony in any state; you will also be disqualified if at any time you have ever been declared mentally incompetent by a judge. This background check is required for the legal sale of any new firearm, no exceptions, no matter whether purchased in a retail store, a gun show or online - in fact, any gun sold online must be sent to a licensed firearms dealer in order for the physical sale and transfer to take place - they are never shipped directly to the buyer.

Depending on the individual State laws, you may or may not be required to register your weapon with the state, or obtain a permit to own it.

To obtain a permit to carry it concealed on your person, another background check is required along with a training course and qualification under an instructor, and usually also requires that your fingerprints be kept on file with State Law Enforcement.



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11 Jan 2014, 8:20 pm

i wouldn't trust me with a gun. if something has moving parts i would be playing with them. i also have the tendency to squeeze things without even knowing i am squeezing them.


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11 Jan 2014, 10:53 pm

In the state of Indiana a firearms purchaser must have a background check ONLY if he buys from a legal dealer. Background checks are not required for private purchases between two individuals or puchases at gun shows. A permit is required for a conceal/carry gun. Firearms may also be stored in your car trunk legally.
If you decide to purchase any firearm, research it carefully. Some aren't as reliable as others. Ammuition can be expensive. I own an M14 rifle. The ammo costs nearly $30 for a box of 20 rounds. .22 ammo is cheap. I suggest you start with a small caliber rifle or handgun .22 caliber. Take a firearms safety course and learn your weapon well. You can graduate to a more powerful firearm. Keep in mind that rifles, shotguns, and handguns are very expensive.
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12 Jan 2014, 5:06 pm

Canadian firearms control legislation"Criminal and Psychiatric Checks

According to section 5(1) of the Firearms Act, “[a] person is not eligible to hold a licence if it is desirable, in the interests of the safety of that or any other person, that the person not possess a firearm.”[38] Therefore, “[a]n applicant for a firearm licence in Canada must pass background checks which consider criminal, mental, addiction and domestic violence records.”[39] Besides criminal checks, in order to determine eligibility under the Act, authorities must consider whether within the previous five years the applicant

has been treated for a mental illness, whether in a hospital, mental institute, psychiatric clinic or otherwise
and whether or not the person was confined to such a hospital, institute or clinic, that was associated with
violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person; or

has a history of behavior that includes violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the
person against any person.[40]
In addition to background checks, “third party character references for each gun licence applicant are required.”[41]

Applicants are screened using a two-tiered process. According to a 2010 evaluation report on Canada’s Firearms Program, “[t]his process entails submitting an application requesting that the applicant provide detailed personal information; when this application is assessed by the CFP, special attention is given to those applying for a Prohibited and Restricted Firearm License.”[42] Moreover, all applicants are also “screened on an on-going basis through the provisions of ‘continuous eligibility’, a monitoring function that has a licensee ‘flagged’ for a review of their license should a matter of public safety arise after they have obtained their license.”[43][quote]

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13 Jan 2014, 1:03 am

Considering law enforcement & military are popular career options for aspies, I don't think you'll have a problem getting a gun permit at all.


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08 Feb 2016, 12:05 pm

sErgEantaEgis wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
A man with Asperger's Syndrome will not be denied that here in America. In Canada (my source is a Canadian shopping in the UP of Michigan because of strict laws), you can't even have you ammo in the same locked container as your guns. On top of that, they won't let you shoot your guns unless they know you are at an approved firing range. To most of you Canadians who continue to exercise your right to a gun, I commend you. You as well. From what I heard from this guy, he can't even use his gun in self defence. But he was an old K'nook, so I am not completely sure he was telling me the truth. If I was a Canadian, my guns would be martial arts skill. You are a tough man, good for you for trying to. I don't think they would go as far as to deny you a gun, but don't bring Asperger's up. Some idiot will think your crazy and rob you of your rights. Unless you think you might hurt yourself, you are clear to get guns in my opinion.


Actually the law is that you can use a firearm only if you're attacked by a firearm.

So if a muscular thug with a knife attacks a meek old lady with a revolver and she uses her revolver to save herself, she could face jail time.

All this to ''protect Canadians from violent crimes with firearms''.

But hey, you gotta do what you gotta do to please the left!



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08 Feb 2016, 12:31 pm

sErgEantaEgis wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
A man with Asperger's Syndrome will not be denied that here in America. In Canada (my source is a Canadian shopping in the UP of Michigan because of strict laws), you can't even have you ammo in the same locked container as your guns. On top of that, they won't let you shoot your guns unless they know you are at an approved firing range. To most of you Canadians who continue to exercise your right to a gun, I commend you. You as well. From what I heard from this guy, he can't even use his gun in self defence. But he was an old K'nook, so I am not completely sure he was telling me the truth. If I was a Canadian, my guns would be martial arts skill. You are a tough man, good for you for trying to. I don't think they would go as far as to deny you a gun, but don't bring Asperger's up. Some idiot will think your crazy and rob you of your rights. Unless you think you might hurt yourself, you are clear to get guns in my opinion.


Actually the law is that you can use a firearm only if you're attacked by a firearm.

So if a muscular thug with a knife attacks a meek old lady with a revolver and she uses her revolver to save herself, she could face jail time.

All this to ''protect Canadians from violent crimes with firearms''.

But hey, you gotta do what you gotta do to please the left!

I don't think that's an intelligent answer as you are saying about dealing with a muscular knife wielding suspect . You do have rights to shoot the Suspect twice or three times stronger than you . Your about to get stabbed to death right there in the spot where no lawmakers are watching. Of course ! Use your common Psychological ability and instincts ! Don't let suspects and Knife wielding Maniacs to protect themselves from the Law! Especially if this situation is an " Underground activity " This is the Criminals strongest weapon against their Victims especially if there is " No one is watching " Vulnerable victims needs security 24 hours a day. If you are unable to stand up for yourself or you are very anxious of what's going to happen next if you pull the trigger or your not really a hundred percent sure or you are completely lost or can't make a judgment for your own safety . I would suggest that you take a HIKE ! Don't try to tell me that knife wielding suspects has thousands of supporters.



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08 Feb 2016, 12:37 pm

Sherlock03 wrote:
Canadian firearms control legislation"Criminal and Psychiatric Checks

According to section 5(1) of the Firearms Act, “[a] person is not eligible to hold a licence if it is desirable, in the interests of the safety of that or any other person, that the person not possess a firearm.”[38] Therefore, “[a]n applicant for a firearm licence in Canada must pass background checks which consider criminal, mental, addiction and domestic violence records.”[39] Besides criminal checks, in order to determine eligibility under the Act, authorities must consider whether within the previous five years the applicant

has been treated for a mental illness, whether in a hospital, mental institute, psychiatric clinic or otherwise
and whether or not the person was confined to such a hospital, institute or clinic, that was associated with
violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person; or

has a history of behavior that includes violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the
person against any person.[40]
In addition to background checks, “third party character references for each gun licence applicant are required.”[41]

Applicants are screened using a two-tiered process. According to a 2010 evaluation report on Canada’s Firearms Program, “[t]his process entails submitting an application requesting that the applicant provide detailed personal information; when this application is assessed by the CFP, special attention is given to those applying for a Prohibited and Restricted Firearm License.”[42] Moreover, all applicants are also “screened on an on-going basis through the provisions of ‘continuous eligibility’, a monitoring function that has a licensee ‘flagged’ for a review of their license should a matter of public safety arise after they have obtained their license.”[43]
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Actually doesn't sound terribly unreasonable....I mean should the really be letting someone just out of a psychiatric hospital who still has questionable mental stability go buy a gun. Having been in a psych ward twice myself I certainly say no. But it also doesn't say no one with a mental health diagnoses can ever own a gun, which is one of my concerns in the U.S is they might try ban people with mental heath diagnoses across the board rather than using a more case by case approach. So I imagine that means someone with aspergers could likely own a gun in Canada if they don't have a violent history and aren't currently having a mental health problem that warrants a psych ward or interventive treatment.

Meh they are dangerous weapons, if you're going to have more powerful guns than what people had when the second amendment was introduced to the bill of rights...then yeah I think people need to more or less show they can be responsible with such a weapon otherwise shouldn't own it.


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08 Feb 2016, 3:01 pm

As far as I know you can't have any type of mental health/behavior diagnosis in the US. I don't have a problem with that because I don't believe anyone should own a gun and I hardly even trust the police/military.

Just my opinion though


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08 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm

Obama keeps saying he's going to close the gun show loophole, but I haven't seen any action yet.


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08 Feb 2016, 5:52 pm

I don't get why owning a gun should be a right. It seems crazy to me. How can you have a functional society when random people have the right to own lethal weapons?

In US, the gun thing originated as a way to be able to do an armed insurrection if the government went bad. But the US government has tanks and planes and drones, so some yokel with a gun wouldn't stand a chance. So, should you be allowed to own your own personal tank or fighter jet? Besides, US is a democracy, so why would you even need to be able to do an armed insurrection? (Assuming you're sane, of course.)

In general, I think the less well-armed a population is, the safer it'll tend to be. Leave guns in the hands of professionals who are trained to serve and protect the people. (Unless you're getting a hunting rifle, or collecting guns for their own sake. Those are valid reasons to get guns, in my opinion, and most people who get them for those purposes are pretty safe with their guns.)

And I'm Canadian, by the way.