Why is there so much drama on these forums?

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11 Feb 2016, 10:51 am

I don't get it. I thought forums like these were designed to genuinely help everyone diagnosed with something like aspergers, pdd-nos, or other forms of autism. Most of you guys just seem to want to piss eachother off. If I wanted to join a forum for pissing other people off i'd go join a gaming forum (oh wait, i'm already a part of one of those and it is pure cancer). I came here looking for advice and help, but i'm not gonna sit here and make fun of other people diagnosed with asperger's for "not having all the symptoms" or whatever you guys say. There's certain things about asperger's which, while you can try your hardest to be proud of, are life-inhibiting traits that cause so much more harm than good. Everyone here should seek to help one another, but there just seems to be so much drama for no reason...



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11 Feb 2016, 11:04 am

It's human nature. We have a lot of people with widely varying opinions, so of course there are going to be fights. The Off the Wall and Random forums are nicer, I think.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:09 am

Here's an interesting thing I've noticed from WP after having been on here for years.

If you create a thread where people agree with you and think what you'd said is okay, you'll get maybe six or eight replies.

If you create a controversial thread which creates a lot of tension, believe me, you'll get so many responses to that thread that a moderator will eventually lock it for going off topic.

The movie director Mike Nichols ("Star Trek") once said, "Two people sitting in a room agreeing is boring."

If it's one thing humans love is drama. Just ask Shakespeare.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:18 am

Without drama, life would be pretty boring.


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11 Feb 2016, 11:30 am

This is the Internet--there are very few Internet forums without such drama--no matter what the topic.

About the only thing that makes a difference is moderation--and most people don't like censoring required to eliminate the drama--assuming you can find a moderator to do what is needed.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:37 am

It proves the maxim:

We are all human, despite our neurological differences.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:40 am

Over all I do not think there is that much drama here.

Most threads here do not have drama.

Just certain threads have drama.

kraftiekortie wrote:
It proves the maxim:

We are all human, despite our neurological differences.


Yes indeed.

And that's a new word for me to add to my vocabulary: maxim. See I am not really that smart, I'm just a copycat :P



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11 Feb 2016, 11:42 am

Only some people are like that. Im not though and many of the long time ppl are not. Its been a recent thing the drama.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:46 am

It's not that the PEOPLE are necessarily into drama.

It is that various HOT-BUTTON ISSUES bring out the drama in people who, usually, are not into drama. This occurs in every forum in the Internet. This also occurs in virtually all friendships, marriages, various other types of relationships.

It's the way of the world. People are going to have opinions--and other people might not like those opinions.

Thus, there will be a certain amount of drama.

The best thing to do, in all instances, is to make a concerted effort to discuss/argue virtuously. Address the issue and don't insult the person.

All this proves the maxim: Autistic people are human. They are not robots.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:49 am

Starfoxx wrote:
Only some people are like that. Im not though and many of the long time ppl are not. Its been a recent thing the drama.


I never thought in a million years that I would ever be a part of it.

And for over 2 years and over three thousand posts, I never have been.



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11 Feb 2016, 11:52 am

Completely agree, dude. I did not expect to come to a forum occupied by "autistic purists", its either they invalidate the experience of HFA/Aspergers or they imvalidate the experiences of women on the spectrum because apparently "easier" being a female autistic person. I acknowledge, of course that it is not everyone here, I have encountered more nice people than I have mean people, in fact this forum is one of the nicest forums I have encountered. There are arguments here and there but they get resolved in most cases.

However, there has been a laughable increase in such posts that have been described by OP and I absolutely abhor the. Everyone has a right to an opinion, of course but the moment you make posts that ooze with righteousness and pretension and basically say in other words: "your experiences do not align with mine.. MY personal experience is THE EPITOME of the autistic experience and I therefore have the authority to decide whether your experience is valid or not. You know despite not knowing you on a personal level and disregarding the fact that autism is a SPECTRUM of different experiences". At the end of such silly posts these people either threaten to leave the forum to go somewhere "better" and more suited, and I say fair enough.. leave if you want to, I guess. You can't stay where you're unhappy, right? But then what gets me, is that when called out on.. Excuse my language, their BS logic. They will throw a strop and whinge about people "silencing them". I guess the motto "talk s**t, get hit" is very much applicable in these situations. If you have verbal diarrhoea online or in real life, don't be surprised if you get some liquid s**t on your blouse/shirt. I am inclined to believe that the people who make such posts are either extremely frustrated with their own lives and have therefore decided to take it out on those who they perceive to be doing "better" than them out of spite or jealousy or they're trolling and are purposely causing distress and annoyance to users who fit the apparent high functioning criteria because it probably amuses them when chaos ensues and everyone gets enraged, and argues non-stop.

These autism functionality threads go absolutely nowhere, I believe they serve the function of "trolling" or in some extreme cases "griefing". I say users who will most likely be annoyed by such threads should avoid them like the plague. It's not worth surrounding yourself with such negativity.. :/ I don't like negativity very much... (the irony is that my post is most certainly negative in nature. XD)

Edit: Just to clarify, I am not specifically criticising EzraS or ZombieBride, I have come to understand why they said those things and it's frustrations that every teenager experiences, it's a little more heightened when you have autism. It's kind of the same way we envy Neurotypicals too.

I guess this post degenerated into a generalised rant about all the posts I saw that fit into this criteria.


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11 Feb 2016, 12:43 pm

DestinedToBeAPotato wrote:
Completely agree, dude. I did not expect to come to a forum occupied by "autistic purists", its either they invalidate the experience of HFA/Aspergers or they imvalidate the experiences of women on the spectrum because apparently "easier" being a female autistic person. I acknowledge, of course that it is not everyone here, I have encountered more nice people than I have mean people, in fact this forum is one of the nicest forums I have encountered. There are arguments here and there but they get resolved in most cases.

However, there has been a laughable increase in such posts that have been described by OP and I absolutely abhor the. Everyone has a right to an opinion, of course but the moment you make posts that ooze with righteousness and pretension and basically say in other words: "your experiences do not align with mine.. MY personal experience is THE EPITOME of the autistic experience and I therefore have the authority to decide whether your experience is valid or not. You know despite not knowing you on a personal level and disregarding the fact that autism is a SPECTRUM of different experiences". At the end of such silly posts these people either threaten to leave the forum to go somewhere "better" and more suited, and I say fair enough.. leave if you want to, I guess. You can't stay where you're unhappy, right? But then what gets me, is that when called out on.. Excuse my language, their BS logic. They will throw a strop and whinge about people "silencing them". I guess the motto "talk s**t, get hit" is very much applicable in these situations. If you have verbal diarrhoea online or in real life, don't be surprised if you get some liquid s**t on your blouse/shirt. I am inclined to believe that the people who make such posts are either extremely frustrated with their own lives and have therefore decided to take it out on those who they perceive to be doing "better" than them out of spite or jealousy or they're trolling and are purposely causing distress and annoyance to users who fit the apparent high functioning criteria because it probably amuses them when chaos ensues and everyone gets enraged, and argues non-stop.

These autism functionality threads go absolutely nowhere, I believe they serve the function of "trolling" or in some extreme cases "griefing". I say users who will most likely be annoyed by such threads should avoid them like the plague. It's not worth surrounding yourself with such negativity.. :/ I don't like negativity very much... (the irony is that my post is most certainly negative in nature. XD)

Edit: Just to clarify, I am not specifically criticising EzraS or ZombieBride, I have come to understand why they said those things and it's frustrations that every teenager experiences, it's a little more heightened when you have autism. It's kind of the same way we envy Neurotypicals too.

I guess this post degenerated into a generalised rant about all the posts I saw that fit into this criteria.


A lot of the stuff you said I was not really aware of or only vaguely aware of. Like the thing about females with autism. There have been plenty of girls in my school. One of the people I have identified with the most here is a female with Aspergers. Every time she posts a problem I am me too 100%. Me and ZombieBride just stuck our foot into a big pile of s**t without knowing it and then the s**t hit the fan.



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11 Feb 2016, 12:43 pm

For the most part I'm in it to help people, for the rest I'm here to improve my typing/writing skills which are more or less my most poorest forms of communication. Though most of the time I find it really difficult to relate to anyone, and I think that people have a hard time relating to me, so it seems like I'm getting ignored a lot of the time. The only time people seem not to ignore me is when they disagree with something that I've said, or they believe that what they said is more factual. If it seems like there is a lot of drama on these Forums, then it's mostly because drama fuels conversation, otherwise it's just a lot of people nodding and shaking their heads.


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11 Feb 2016, 12:47 pm

I personally haven't seen much drama on here at all.
It's inevitable.


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11 Feb 2016, 12:56 pm

I have had drama aimed at me before in here, and I just ignore the person (usually not even bothering to respond). Interesting thing I've noticed, a lot of times it's the same people throwing drama my way as I see throwing drama other people's way.

You ever heard the expression "high maintenance"? Some people are always in some kind of conflict or drama, and if you watch closely, you can see that they create most of it themselves, while blaming it on others.

There are some people here I am very fond of, and none of them is one of these histrionic types.

Just pick who you want to interact with, and ignore everybody else. It works for me!


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11 Feb 2016, 1:01 pm

oSovereign wrote:
I don't get it. I thought forums like these were designed to genuinely help everyone diagnosed with something like aspergers, pdd-nos, or other forms of autism. Most of you guys just seem to want to piss eachother off. If I wanted to join a forum for pissing other people off i'd go join a gaming forum (oh wait, i'm already a part of one of those and it is pure cancer). I came here looking for advice and help, but i'm not gonna sit here and make fun of other people diagnosed with asperger's for "not having all the symptoms" or whatever you guys say. There's certain things about asperger's which, while you can try your hardest to be proud of, are life-inhibiting traits that cause so much more harm than good. Everyone here should seek to help one another, but there just seems to be so much drama for no reason...


....most people arent saying anything like that.

One thing NOT to do on a forum: Take a few topics that repeat every now and then, and inject a "THIS IS ALL THAT EVER HAPPENS IN THIS PLACE" view into them.

Every forum out there has things like this that appear in them, and every time, there's always someone saying that it's all that's there.

In addition, this is a pretty big forum. It's outright inevitable that stuff like this happens. There's no avoiding this.

If a particular type of topic bothers you... dont enter the topic. It's the proper way to deal with things of that nature on forums.