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11 Feb 2016, 3:40 pm

I really don't believe that using terms like "NT's" to put the rest of the world into another bracket is very helpful. It just creates further divisions and alienation. The same happens with non white ethnic groups, religions, homosexuals and/or transsexuals. At the same time I sympathize with those who are on the low functioning end of the spectrum, but the majority of people would just assume that person was weird, and they would do the same with a different type of person who isn't on the spectrum. Not that "weird" really has a true meaning anyway. I feel that some of us have victim complexes (which may not be unjustified), but it isn't helping anyone, and plenty of people who aren't on the spectrum do as well.

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11 Feb 2016, 3:41 pm

I wholeheartedly agree.



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11 Feb 2016, 3:47 pm

Surprisingly enough, you can have issues with having too much skill--lots of people have issues with savant like skills--like flipping through a new magazine or book and being able to display remarkable comprehension over what you glanced at.



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11 Feb 2016, 3:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree.


Cool!


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11 Feb 2016, 3:51 pm

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Surprisingly enough, you can have issues with having too much skill--lots of people have issues with savant like skills--like flipping through a new magazine or book and being able to display remarkable comprehension over what you glanced at.


I know that. With me, it depends what mood i'm in. Most of the time, I have trouble staying focused.


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11 Feb 2016, 3:53 pm

I don't think that the use of the term "NT" is a bad thing in and of itself. But there can be an "us and them" attitude when people start stereotyping NTs and emphasizing the differences we have from NTs.



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11 Feb 2016, 3:58 pm

I don't think villifying NTs as an "out-group that's not like us" is helpful for anyone, but acknowledging that we are largely separate from each other culturally, mentally, emotionally and behaviourally is what creates the "autism community", or any community of different individuals, such as the black, deaf, or homosexual community. I think this sense of connectedness with one's "own kind" so to speak is important and valuable, but being connected with others like us doesn't mean we have to reject those who aren't like us, namely NTs.


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11 Feb 2016, 3:59 pm

I've been on the edge of making this kind of thread myself. A terrible lot of sweeping generalizations been going around on this forum lately, a lot of people are paranoid of others whether it's the gender or functioning wars.

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11 Feb 2016, 4:12 pm

TheAP wrote:
I don't think that the use of the term "NT" is a bad thing in and of itself. But there can be an "us and them" attitude when people start stereotyping NTs and emphasizing the differences we have from NTs.


True.


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11 Feb 2016, 4:19 pm

StarTrekker wrote:
I don't think villifying NTs as an "out-group that's not like us" is helpful for anyone, but acknowledging that we are largely separate from each other culturally, mentally, emotionally and behaviourally is what creates the "autism community", or any community of different individuals, such as the black, deaf, or homosexual community. I think this sense of connectedness with one's "own kind" so to speak is important and valuable, but being connected with others like us doesn't mean we have to reject those who aren't like us, namely NTs.


I'm not sure why blacks and homosexuals would be put in that same bracket in this day and age. I'm no sure the brackets help at all, and I think most of us would get by without a community if that was the case. There's people not on the spectrum who would have worse social problems than some on it. And I see a lot of people saying "oh this is an aspie trait", when it's just a human trait.


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11 Feb 2016, 4:21 pm

Feyokien wrote:
I've been on the edge of making this kind of thread myself. A terrible lot of sweeping generalizations been going around on this forum lately, a lot of people are paranoid of others whether it's the gender or functioning wars.

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It's pretty hypocritical right?


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11 Feb 2016, 4:43 pm

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11 Feb 2016, 5:02 pm

No I don't really agree. The NT-word are made up by NT's, that's where I first heard it from :) And really it's them who try to force/convince us to be like them when we aren't



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11 Feb 2016, 7:35 pm

yup

The whole use of nt is absurd. A term used dirisively that assumes everyone else is operating normally whatever that means. It assumes that ASD is somehow unique and on the upper echelon of neurodiversity. it implies you are somehow better. Which makes me wonder how many people on here just latch on to the label to satisfy some less sexy issue like low self esteem and narcissism. I also find the whole ASD scoring people add to their profiles asinine.

And even using that dubious term and what it is supposed to mean,
i struggle to understand how anyone that suffers with ASD would not want to be normal.

Person with ASD, probably smarter than you with those super powers nobody really cares about and would trade everything except maybe my hair to be not this. I guess that means neurotypical. That's me next to Elmo.



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11 Feb 2016, 9:22 pm

I agree, OP. And I've never really liked the term Neurotypical as it implies that, just because someone isn't on the spectrum, their brain functions normally. I prefer the term Allistic.

Feyokien wrote:
A terrible lot of sweeping generalizations been going around on this forum lately, a lot of people are paranoid of others whether it's the gender or functioning wars.

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^This. The slew of sweeping generalizations around the forums have been getting really old. It's a highly irrational thought process.



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11 Feb 2016, 9:57 pm

Without the term NT we'd never have seen those parodies of the way we're portrayed in diagnostic manuals - the mythical "Neurotypical Syndrome." I thought they were quite funny. I think NT is a useful term, but like a knife it can be used to do harm as well as good.