why do NT get mad when they know you are right?

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13 Feb 2016, 4:39 pm

is it hard for them to accept it?


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13 Feb 2016, 4:40 pm

random1 wrote:
is it hard for them to accept it?


Yes.



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13 Feb 2016, 4:43 pm

Because they like too dream in their cotton wool lies.



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13 Feb 2016, 5:46 pm

Most people, NT or not, do not like being shown they are wrong. It takes a lot of humility to accept and admit being wrong, especially if it is about something the person has vehemently held to for a long time. Humility is against human nature, for the most part.



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13 Feb 2016, 5:49 pm

They don't care about what is right ,
they just care about getting their narrative out and making it the 'official story'

If you make a good point which contradicts that, they'll do anything to shut you down
Such as
Making a noise like 'blah blah' to derail your train of thought,
Showing anger to shut you up
Changing the topic
Disagreeing on some unimportant point to derail your thoughts



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13 Feb 2016, 5:50 pm

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Most people, NT or not, do not like being shown they are wrong. It takes a lot of humility to accept and admit being wrong, especially if it is about something the person has vehemently held to for a long time. Humility is against human nature, for the most part.


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13 Feb 2016, 6:03 pm

I'd say it's significantly more prevalent amongst most of the NT's though. When I'll realize I'm wrong I'll feel unpleasant about it, but I'll always admit it. So many people are so childish about it though. Like more immature than toddlers. Especially adults, which is very ironic. They'll resort to shouting, aggression and repeating the same thing over and over again just to not have to admit to being wrong. It's one of the main reasons society is a mess, people not thinking and behaving logically. I'd say my HFA has made me more of a logical person, which really is a good thing.



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13 Feb 2016, 6:32 pm

Sometimes NTs expect us to tell "polite lies," to pretend something is true when we know it isn't, to keep them from being embarrassed. This may be to act like they are correct about some trivial fact, e.g., some sports trivia. It's not really important to say they're wrong about who won SuperWhatsitCup #15.

NTs use polite lies a lot, and hate it when we don't play along. I find it really difficult to tell when I'm supposed to use one, especially if I know I am right about some fact and they are not. People don't like to be corrected and shown to be ignorant, and sometimes we are expected to use polite lies to pretend our friends are correct when they aren't.

I use the "pick your battles" test--is it really important to show someone that they are wrong and I'm right? Why do I need to tell them this? Am I showing off how smart I am, or trying to prevent them from making an error that might hurt them? Of course, if their error will cause them pain, money loss, embarrassment, or legal troubles, then I tell them, preferably in private, so they aren't embarrassed in front of their friends.


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13 Feb 2016, 6:38 pm

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I'd say it's significantly more prevalent amongst most of the NT's though. When I'll realize I'm wrong I'll feel unpleasant about it, but I'll always admit it. So many people are so childish about it though. Like more immature than toddlers. Especially adults, which is very ironic. They'll resort to shouting, aggression and repeating the same thing over and over again just to not have to admit to being wrong. It's one of the main reasons society is a mess, people not thinking and behaving logically. I'd say my HFA has made me more of a logical person, which really is a good thing.

I think how emotional they get depends on how important this error is to their self-identity, such as something to do with their religious or political beliefs. People can accept an astounding amount of BS in order to defend cherished beliefs, and no amount of logic can shake them. Remember NTs base a lot of their identities on belonging to a group, and this may require accepting all the beliefs of that group with very little questioning or critical thinking. To question a tenet of that group is considered divisive and a sort of disloyalty to the group. Yeah, I know it's not logical. It's emotional.


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13 Feb 2016, 6:39 pm

It seems more prevalent among NT's because most people are only around NT's. At least one assumes they are all NT's.



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13 Feb 2016, 6:41 pm

Maybe you're not right.


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13 Feb 2016, 7:08 pm

I think he is right.


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13 Feb 2016, 7:14 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Maybe you're not right.


Looks like my theory is right:

DailyPoutine wrote:
Because they like too dream in their cotton wool lies.



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13 Feb 2016, 7:28 pm

I've been around people who think they are always right - it gets old. They don't even want to try to see your side. When two people both think they're right, both are probably half right in how they see things then they should try to see the other persons point of view.That's called communication.


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13 Feb 2016, 7:34 pm

It is not exclusive to NT. Most people cannot separate emotion from rationality. That is why discussions tend to become more emotionally loaded as people have less rational arguments to make.



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13 Feb 2016, 11:16 pm

GodzillaWoman wrote:
Sometimes NTs expect us to tell "polite lies," to pretend something is true when we know it isn't, to keep them from being embarrassed. This may be to act like they are correct about some trivial fact, e.g., some sports trivia. It's not really important to say they're wrong about who won SuperWhatsitCup #15.

NTs use polite lies a lot, and hate it when we don't play along. I find it really difficult to tell when I'm supposed to use one, especially if I know I am right about some fact and they are not. People don't like to be corrected and shown to be ignorant, and sometimes we are expected to use polite lies to pretend our friends are correct when they aren't.

I use the "pick your battles" test--is it really important to show someone that they are wrong and I'm right? Why do I need to tell them this? Am I showing off how smart I am, or trying to prevent them from making an error that might hurt them? Of course, if their error will cause them pain, money loss, embarrassment, or legal troubles, then I tell them, preferably in private, so they aren't embarrassed in front of their friends.


I think you've just pinpointed the reason my mom gets frustrated and says, "You're alway correcting us!" to me a lot. I didn't really understand what she meant, but I realise now that she was referring to the fact that, every time she or someone else tells a story, if they get details wrong, I always interject to fill in the right ones. I didn't know they got so defensive about this, I just feel compelled to make sure the details of stories are accurate, otherwise they feel like a lie. If I'm telling a story, and I can't remember exact details, I'll tell the listener that I can't remember exactly, but that, "I think it was like this", and my friends and family never seem to do this; they state their incorrect facts as if they're certain of them, which is the part that really bothers me, and makes me feel like I'm condoning lying if I let it slide.


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