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DevilKisses
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01 Mar 2016, 12:59 am

What I mean by this is using the word "we" and only referring to one particular group. An example is when I was listening to a First Nations author talk at my school. The room had white and First Nations people. He often said we, but he was only referring to First Nations people. It makes me feel uncomfortable even if I'm part of the group they're talking to. Does anyone else feel this way?


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01 Mar 2016, 5:48 am

DevilKisses wrote:
What I mean by this is using the word "we" and only referring to one particular group. An example is when I was listening to a First Nations author talk at my school. The room had white and First Nations people. He often said we, but he was only referring to First Nations people. It makes me feel uncomfortable even if I'm part of the group they're talking to. Does anyone else feel this way?

I can't say it bothers me per se, but I can say I find it odd sometimes.

Don't like it when "we" is the euphemism for "you"...."My, aren't 'we' grumpy this morning." "'We' need to get the garage cleaned."

Depends on how the person used we. Was he part of an organization that made it a 'we' campaign?

I'm trying to find context without any sources...that's all.


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01 Mar 2016, 6:35 am

I don´t like it either, when used as a eufemism as above mentioned, but otherwise.....I hesitate.
Very seldom I use "we" meaning people with autism - because it is so broad and includes people in REAL need of help.
It´s easier, when speaking of aspies, but I´m not totally comfortable with it.

I guess, the old classifications are very much alive between my ears.


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01 Mar 2016, 7:18 am

If he's First Nations himself and talking about First Nations people, then 'we' is accurate. He is a part of the group he is talking about.

As for the idea of it excluding people, so what? Not everyone is First Nations. When talking about First Nations-specific issues, what you say won't apply to everyone. If we only ever talked about issues that applied to everyone, we'd never talk about injustice.



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01 Mar 2016, 8:08 am

Yes, cause people use it without my permission We all agreed on this. :evil:


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01 Mar 2016, 8:08 am

zkydz wrote:
Don't like it when "we" is the euphemism for "you"...."My, aren't 'we' grumpy this morning." "'We' need to get the garage cleaned."


This usage really irritates me. I always have to fight the urge to correct people when they use "we" like that. Other usages generally don't bother me.



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01 Mar 2016, 8:26 am

When someone who just recently found out about Aspergers on the internet, going on about "we" this and "us" that. Usually in a tirade about "NT's". Just seems a tad presumptuous sometimes.



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01 Mar 2016, 12:36 pm

Ettina wrote:
If he's First Nations himself and talking about First Nations people, then 'we' is accurate. He is a part of the group he is talking about.

As for the idea of it excluding people, so what? Not everyone is First Nations. When talking about First Nations-specific issues, what you say won't apply to everyone. If we only ever talked about issues that applied to everyone, we'd never talk about injustice.

I'm not just talking about First Nations people. I see gay and autistic people do the same thing. It makes me uncomfortable.


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01 Mar 2016, 1:00 pm

EzraS wrote:
When someone who just recently found out about Aspergers on the internet, going on about "we" this and "us" that. Usually in a tirade about "NT's". Just seems a tad presumptuous sometimes.
Considering that I thought I was NT until a short time ago, and not really sure what I am, I sit firmly on the 'confused' front. heck, I didn't even know what NT is until about November of 2015.


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01 Mar 2016, 2:43 pm

I'm rather guilty of this! I fall into using "we" when I write far too much!

In my defence, my step-dad is from an area of London where "we" is often used in place of "I" - what British folks refer to as the "Royal We". It was very confusing at first when he first joined the family! It's also a common substitute for the more archaic "one" for many people, I think.

So, I try not to take it too personally, even though it does make me uncomfortable when people seem to be including me in a group or clique which I don't feel I belong to. There are a lot of common phrases like this - the one that really gets me is "everyone", as in; "Everyone experiences..." or "Everyone knows that...". I find that one far more frustrating as the "inclusiveness" seems much more explicit and less likely to be accidental.


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01 Mar 2016, 2:59 pm

Trogluddite wrote:
I'm rather guilty of this! I fall into using "we" when I write far too much!

In my defence, my step-dad is from an area of London where "we" is often used in place of "I" - what British folks refer to as the "Royal We". It was very confusing at first when he first joined the family! It's also a common substitute for the more archaic "one" for many people, I think.

So, I try not to take it too personally, even though it does make me uncomfortable when people seem to be including me in a group or clique which I don't feel I belong to. There are a lot of common phrases like this - the one that really gets me is "everyone", as in; "Everyone experiences..." or "Everyone knows that...". I find that one far more frustrating as the "inclusiveness" seems much more explicit and less likely to be accidental.

My favorite joke about "we".
The Lone Ranger and Tonto are surrounded by Comanche on the West, Cherokee on the East, Navajo to the north and Apache to the south. He turns to Tonto and says, "We may be in trouble Tonto."

"What do you mean "WE", white man?"


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01 Mar 2016, 3:18 pm

I don't tend to use it, but it doesn't bother me. Why should it? I would say it's only a reason for concern of the person claims to be speaking on behalf on the entire group as in "We like this...", or "We feel this way..."

Otherwise if the person is not making a statement that everyone in a group does something or feels a certain way, I don't see the problem. For instance, I could say about Italian-Americans "We sometimes are stereotyped as gangsters or criminals" and that would just be a factual statement, not my speaking on the opinion of the group. But I still probably wouldn't use "we".



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01 Mar 2016, 3:35 pm

I don't like it when people use we condesendingly. I usually say "We? You got a mouse in your pocket?"


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01 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm

I don't like it when people say "we" when talking about a group of people in general. Like, "we (Canadians) don't know very much about our history." All of us? Or, "It's our fault that (insert social issue here) happens." Every single person is responsible for it? Ironically, I have used the word in this context before. It's hard to avoid when you hear it so much.



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02 Mar 2016, 8:31 am

Doc: "How are we today?" Patient: "I´m ok...dunno ´bout you".


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02 Mar 2016, 9:42 am

Pieplup wrote:
Yes, cause people use it without my permission We all agreed on this. :evil:


"WE"????????????????

Did WE all agree to not use the word "we". I don't remember THAT!

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