WHAT IS BPD?

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what are symptoms?

this common in autism?

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/b ... ndex.shtml

Borderline Personality Disorder.

I don't get the impression that this is common in autism, since people with Borderline Personality Disorder have the tendency to over-emphasize their "social" aspects, and to have knowledge of social give-and-take.

ive heard that the common inappropriate anger or expressing anger or controlling anger is common.

i think some of us have a mild version?

if thats even possible

There's also the implication that one with Borderline Disorder is on the boundary (hence, "borderline") between neurosis and psychosis.

Yes, inappropriate anger is part of BPD. But I would say that the anger found in autism just might have a different root cause.

Borderline Personaility Disorder?

the "I Hate you, please dont leave me" personality disorder

These people have a very hard time forming relationships and are very manipulative. They have the tendancy to self loath, self harm and have suicidal thoughts, they usually have a extremely low self esteem. They also tend to be very impulsive. They also feel that peoples intentions are almost always against them. They generally have a hard time reading body language and facial expressions, interpreting almost all emotions as aggressive ones.

Explosive anger is only part of the disorder. Living with one is like walking on eggshells

My sister has severe BLPD and so does my mother. I have traits such as the explosive anger and self harm but thats about it.

They also have issues with identity, because they have low self esteem they 'borrow' other peoples personalities and trends, even if they personally don't like it, they tend to mimic famous, popular or well liked people. Psychologists describe it as wearing a 'figurative' mask, they never show their true selfs and most of the time dont know their true selfs.

I thought it stood for Bipolar Disorder.

bipolar disorder is fully called bipolar affective (having to do with emotions) disorder or BAD.

My former psychiatrist misdiagnosed me with BPD after I had made two attempts to take my own life. Apart from rather pervasive suicidal thoughts and profound feelings of emptiness, I do not meet the diagnostic criteria for BPD.

The consequence of this incorrect label was for me to attend an intensive group therapy programme three times a week for a year, which was specifically designed for those with the disorder. Needless to say, the majority of the other patients (if that's the correct term) were, on many occasions, highly volatile, very insecure and manipulative. Some were very needy too because they have intense fears of abandonment. Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction may well have had it.

borderline personality disorder does not mean that people who have it are on the borderline of having a personality disorder.

it means that the people who have it are not able to see continuity of effect and are either exaggeratedly on one side of a border of appreciation or on the other side.

they are prone to black and white thinking that can be transposable with minimal influence.

i know a girl with BPD who sees me sometimes as a misunderstood selfless genius all by myself in isolation (supremely innocent), and other times sees me as an evil manipulating fraud who has pulled the wool over her eyes and seduced her into a false impression of me. there is no middle ground.

i have no real influence over any of it and just have to cop whatever she thinks at the time.

My thinking on this is that one aspect of folk with Borderline Personality Disorder is that they struggle with a lack of emotional regulation and so have angry and emotional outbursts when their emotions get too much. Those of us with autism can have meltdowns which look, from the outside, quite similar. However I think the two things come from different processes going on inside a person.

Those with BPD are experiencing magnified emotions which spill over into emotional actions and their moods can change quite rapidly.

Those with ASD are struggling with, either difficulties with communication which cause massive frustration and lead to meltdowns, or difficulties in coping with sensory overload which causes the same meltdowns.

I think the difference is important because if someone with ASD is having meltdowns this can be addressed by finding out what is causing it - communication or sensory problems - and then practically addressing the situation. I have dramitically reduced the number of times I meltdown (on average) by understanding this and taking practical steps to work on what is going wrong and then fix it before I cannot manage any more.

I suspect that this wouldn't necessarily work for someone with BPD as their emotional outbursts are coming from a different cause. For people with BPD learning self calming techniques can help and so can being with caregivers and friends who can listen and understand and kind of 'hold' the emotions when they can't which models the process which they're not able to do so well.

I have a close friend with BPD and I have ASD. Both of us can melt down but it's really clear when we are together that we are also coming from very different places.

All of that said, there is no reason why someone couldn't have both ASD and BPD. It would be pretty hard on them I guess.

I'm autistic and have subclinical BPD and yeah, the meltdowns caused by each are different. When it's just sensory overload, I'm often not feeling any negative emotions, just feeling overwhelmed and tired and like it's all too much, and I often lose skills. (I don't have a need for routine, but I do get overloaded more easily in unfamiliar situations.) When it's the BPD tendencies, it's pretty much pure emotion, and I usually don't lose skills, but I feel like whoever upset me is my enemy and is determined to make me miserable. It almost feels like they're sending pulses of negative emotion at me. It's also worse the closer I am to the person, because if a person I'm not close to upsets me, I just leave, but if I need them emotionally then I can't leave.

The management is very different too. With autistic meltdowns/shutdowns, I've found just going somewhere quiet and doing something calming makes it better, whereas with BPD-meltdowns I need to convince myself that my loved ones care about me, often by screaming at them until they give me a hug. (Yes, I know it's not the best strategy, but I can't stop myself from doing it anyway.) And over the long term, I've mostly eliminated autistic meltdowns by just avoiding overloading situations or leaving as soon as I start getting overloaded. But there is no way I could avoid BPD triggers because they're tied to a basic psychological need (love). And even when I'm alone, I'll start getting depressed if I'm alone too long. So instead, I'm trying to treat it by learning alternate coping strategies using a treatment called DBT.

The only treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder is to build a wall, and to have Mexico pay for it!

I don't get it. The only thing I see in your post is about illegal immigrants being in our country and we want them out so we have built a wall across the Mexico/Texas border to keep them out. And yes you get shot if you try to cross over the big fence.

Well..the name of disorder has "border line" in it. So I couldn't help but think about "the border" and the issues associated with it.

And I couldn't help thinking about Trump's idea of building (not just the existing fence) a big wall 800 miles long, and "making Mexico pay for it" (surely must have heard about that idea). So I couldn't resist making a flip reference to it.