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There is really no signifigant difference in "HFA" and "Asperger Syndrome" lets be honest here. I mean many of the "symptoms" vary from person to person anyhow, and the commonly shared "symptoms" are pretty much the same. I mean look how diverse the spectrum is with functioning levels and autism levels and what not, it makes the terms HFA and AS seem like theyr splitting hairs here.

Just language delay if i understand it correctly.
I could talk when i was 4 or 5 year old.
I think there has to be significant delay to get the HFA label.
Other than that, the same.

What does it matter when you reach 30 years old or whatever.

The differences in a group of people with aspergers(or HFA) is far greater that the
difference of the two groups HFA or aspergers. These labels are mans mostly subjective attempt to categorise the under lying biological driven behaviors that are more complex and multi-dimensional than a mere "he has aspergers or HFA".

Forexample a better way to label people would look like a long list of varables with a number between 0-99 (meaning 1-100) and each varable representing a human behavoir abbreviated to one letter. And certainly all known genetic factors like polymorphism in neutrotansmitter recepter (an all other know biological measurable
differences).

So you end up with something like:

I 75 E 25 N 75 S 25 F 34 T 66 P 78 J 22 X 45 K 56 L 45 B 34 M 32 C 23 Q 23 A 44 Z 33
N 23 G 33 D 33 (made up numbers for the examples)

Welcome to I 75 E 25 N 75 S 25 F 34 T 66 P 78 J 22 X 45 K 56 L 45 B 34 M 32 C 23 Q 23 A 44 Z 33
N 23 G 33 D 33-panet.com !

Well that would be better in a lot of ways.
I mean you would not get people crying to anybody that they have
CX 32 BV 53 FD 35 .... syndrome.
I mean no-one would empathise this.
If you put a large amount of these categories together and call it AS, then people have an excuse to start whining about 'cure me.'
I think that will be the future though.

I am reminded of the film Gattaca.

( I usually have a film or book in mind after reading TM1 posts).

Snake,

What is the point? AS IS HFA but HFA is not necessarily AS.

Steve

I saw a paper that was interesting, although the basis of participants was small, so it may not be completely true.
It said that they took around 20 people with HFA, and twenty with AS, with the same Full Scale IQ, and then looked at the areas they had problems in, their Perfomance IQ's, their Verbal IQ's etc.

They determined, that there was a difference, the HFA's did not have a significant difference between PIQ and VIQ. They also had different problems...

I'll see if I can pull it up. Although as I said, this is not a large study, and is probably not a global representation of how HFA and AS are Dx'ed. I have a feeling, if there IS a difference, AS and HFA'ers are missdiagnosed all the time!

The dx criteria of AS is the most wishy-washy load of balderdash I have seen in a long time.

If your brain is "hard-wired" such that you are on the spectrum, then you are on the spectrum. However if your environment is such that you do not have significant problems, then you don't get a Dx, according to the criteria.

I thought that not all types of HFA had all the symptoms AS had, like obsessive interests.

I do this too. I take my spit ends, and just peel them apart.

Oh wait, this isn't another one of THOSE threads.