What if I told you...

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...That all people with aspergers are spiritually sensetive.

Let me explain...

For every time you walk around you are actually being lured by spiritual entities to do their bidding like a will o' whisp will do to the unwary.



For every time you body parts are in a compulsion you are actually being pulled by various spirits, yearning to get a reaction from you.



For every time you talk to yourself or day dream you are unconciously communicating with spirits from other dimensions, other timelines and other universes.



This is my personal spirituality I use to explain my unexplainable autistic tendecies. If you want you can use this to explain some of your autitic tendecies as well.


What do you think?

I don't know. I tend to not believe these spiritual things. But it would be cool if it were true.

I agree with TheAP - I was raised conservative Christian & then took too many critical thinking and formal logic courses in college. Nature spiritualities have always fascinated me and drawn me to them, but making them fit into my head and heart is like learning a second language when the phonemes just aren't there. So yeah, it would be really cool...

I think that it makes for interesting fiction.

Raised conservative Christian. Claiming atheism now.

This WOULD make an awesome book series. Like, say, magic returned to the world but only those with a different 'brain' are able to safely use it? (SciFi geek here... what can I say).


Also, your subject now has a Kelly Clarkson song stuck in my head.

This is much too far fetched for me, and this is coming from someone who was obsessed with psychic nonsense for a little while and suspects that dream sharing is a real thing.

I'm more of an agnostic at this point, being a spiritual persion myself.

I think I might write something like that, but I'm kind of hesitant because I'm thibking about writing something else. Got any other ideas?

Also, what Kelly Clarkson song did you have in mind?

Well, I'm clearly odd, but the honest truth is that I do experience what you're talking about, and have fairy friends who speak to me on a daily basis. (Or, I'm delusional; take your pick. But they honestly feel real to me.)

They don't control me though, nor do I think that psychic sensitivity is linked to autism. In Biblical times, demon possession was used to explain all manner of socially odd behavior, but that's not my personal belief. Still, it seems that spiritual sensitivity is actually quite rare among autistics, so I just wanted to say you're not the only one!

Interesting. Throughout my daughter's childhood she had a semi-hidden imaginary friend, a guardian fairy. Semi-hidden b/c DD would see (and tell us about) all sorts of physical signs that types of fairies lived where ever we were, as well as signs that her friend was right there watching her even if she could never be allowed to be seen. She had an entire world build up after a while - my favorite element was the hanging moss/fungus that grows on oak tree extremities. Since there are so many different forms, it had many different specific uses for the Tree Fairies ranging from medicinal tea to pillow & bed stuffing. This only recently abated as DD discovered computers & video games.

I find it interesting that such things can be explained in different ways, depending on one's personal philosophy. I have no trouble with other people explaining it as my own subconscious playing tricks on me - and it could very well be. If science can definitively disprove the existence of spiritual beings, then I will rethink my position on this. But my own perception is that they are real, and they bring me comfort, so I am grateful to feel that connection.

like the OP's concept. I am spiritual myself.. a recent survey on the forums asked if those on the spectrum felt they were here for a purpose but not sure why ( words to extent, sorry if not quoted entirely correctly ) I think over 66% felt they were.. Maybe there is some truth in it, i dont know, as there is no conclusive evidence to prove or disprove the theory.. However when we get down to the fundamentals of who we are as human beings, in essence we are made of star dust, chemically and atomically speaking we are held together by vibration made from elements in the cosmos... Also if you look at the human brain and its neuro networks it is spookily similar to that of the cosmic network within our universe.



The universe is somewhat infinite and so are our ideas, Einstein who was possibly seen to be on the spectrum was spiritual and in essence it was his spirituality that led him on to solve some of the most complex mathematical equations known to man/woman.. So it is a possible hypothesis that we are all connected in a universal way and to some extent it is factually correct...

You could also argue that each individual is in itself a universe.. when you look deep down on a cellular level, the similarities that we see through a telescope and ourselves through a microscope are strikingly familiar..
I remember having an argument with my physics teacher when i was 12 who said in the vacuum of space there is nothing, i argued that there was, for even a vacuum must hold something, as in essence there cannot ever be nothing as something needs to create that space! lets just say he wasnt amused! lol, but i thought it was a valid argument ... This seemed later on in life to be correct, when we get down to quarks and string theory etc! ...

There is also the hypothesis that we are living in the ""Matrix"".. it isnt as stupid as it sounds, there are many leading world scientists that are spending their lives trying to prove/disprove the fact we could possibly be living a simulation...'

So in essence even if there seems to be nothing, there is always something ( lost you yet? lol) and something has to be created from something else and so on.. So again in essence, spirituality is somewhat subjective depending on the thoughts and interpretations of each ""Individual"".

The biggest question of all is what is consciousness? whether you believe in a single god, or multitude of intelligence, consciousness in itself is difficult to disprove as a form of spirituality within itself..

As we all have our own thoughts, one persons idea of spirituality will not be the same as anothers hence our own individual universes ( multiverse), however, when a question such as the op's is brought to light we have people for and against, BECAUSE of each individuals interpretation of what spirituality is or is not...

As consciousness is seen as the human soul, would it not then be fair to say we are all spiritual whether you believe it or not, or follow it or not? ...

Could be.

I'm a logical person myself, and people seem to think I'm very smart (I tell ya though, sometimes I sure dont FEEL smart, so who knows if they're right... ), but...

My view on this sort of thing is a little different. I'm actually TOO logical to at all be much of a skeptic. I dont have the bizarre assumption that so many logical people have: That if we, with our pathetic, rudimentary science (seriously, we cant even fully understand our own bodies, or get off our own stupid planet... and we think we know everything? Ridiculous), cannot find something, CLEARLY it must not exist, because we're clearly so damn awesome and amazing that of COURSE it couldnt.

And to me, a lack of direct evidence in something works BOTH ways. This is how I tend to feel on matters of all sorts of things, too. Someone says "Well such and such doesnt exist, there's no evidence!" My response is always "Okay, so wheres your own evidence of the void that you say is there instead? Tear open a hole in reality and show me that there's nothing there. You obviously are able to do this if you are truly 100% sure of what you say, so get on with it!" What follows is always either stuttering, or a barrage of rather odd and nonsensical contradictions; people seem to get more than a tad confused in this situation, which frankly fascinates me. Let them ramble long enough, and they'll start going against their own earlier statements. But the simple fact is... none of them can produce evidence of what THEY say, any more than the other side can. Faith and belief dont work in only one direction.

In other words, to me, "I havent the foggiest damn clue" is the correct answer with things like that, to me. Because it's the actual truth, instead of an arrogant assumption of knowledge. I figure, if I *dont* have an open mind... how the bloody hell can I learn anything? A true scientist applies NO bias whatsoever, but most of them do have some.

Could spiritual things exist? ....How the bloody hell should I know? I certainly cant prove that they DONT. When wierd stuff happens... which it does occaisionally, though I usually never speak of it... I do my best to not make ANY assumptions. I dont just assume that it's some supernatural whatsit simply because of how bloody strange it was... but I also dont assume things in the other direction either. When I cannot find an answer, because different bits of logic are pointing in different directions (and yes, I do tend to very obsessively research things rather than go off of my own knowledge of various subjects)... the answer, then, becomes "Well, I have no idea. Oh well, maybe I'll learn more later on in future experiences." And then I typically just go about my day.

In the end though, what I care about is one very specific thing: That people not bother and belittle others for whatever they believe. And that they also stop jumping into conversations where they're not wanted just to tell people how stupid they are and assert their assumed superiority (and yes, BOTH sides do this with probably equal frequency). It's called being an asshat, people. While I give my own thoughts on this, I always figure, everyone else is free to believe whatever the heck they want, and it's all fine by me.

So that's some of my thoughts on that. Why am I rambling about this? Partly because I'm very bored.

In the end, all that concerns me is whether or not sufficient evidence exists to actually prove that any of these "spiritual" concepts are valid. Otherwise, it's all just fantasy, hearsay, and speculation.

And like I said, that exact logic and way of thinking works in the direct opposite direction.

Until EITHER side can prove to me that either the Spiritual, or what I always refer to as the Void exists and is the truth... I will always just say "I dont know." Because I dont.

Maybe someday, I will. Today is not that day.

Though, I'll give my other part of this here too, in that, in my own personal thoughts... I also dont really care in an overall sense. NEITHER side is useful to me, personally, in a practical sense, so I only think about it every now and then, typically when bored. You know... that autistic tendency to only give a damn about your special interests. I've definitely got THAT one, haha. I can take interest in other subjects but it's always tangential (is that spelled right?) compared to my obsessions. So while interesting (at times), I dont consider this a very important topic, regardless of which way things are pointing. Of course, I understand that plenty of people DO, and that's absolutely fine, and I"m not averse to conversations about it (preferrably one-on-one conversations though, I eventually tire of multi-way conversations as I get confused after awhile).

It's too bad that the James Randi's Million-Dollar Challenge has been terminated ...

Source: http://web.randi.org/home/jref-status

Imagine being able to not only prove the existence of paranormal/psychic abilities, but being able to walk away with one million U.S. dollars!

Too bad every one of the claimants either failed the test itself, refused to be tested (and observed) under controlled conditions, or simply failed to fill out the paperwork correctly.

Maybe it's time for me to revive my "What's In The Box?" challenge, and offer a monetary prize, as well.

Yes, seen a few of Randis vids in relation to charlatans, all very interesting....and sad at the same time that people will use others peoples misfortune for financial gain and often convince themselves that what they do is real and true so as not to carry a burden of guilt for what they are doing, and some hold no guilt at all, rather ASPD...

However as a discussion, it is rather interesting, the concept of life, existence etc... and is worth looking at for those that have interest in this area.. I understand not everyone does as i dont hold interest in other peoples interests... However There does seem something rather amazing about the universe we live in, ""Spiritual"" or not.. ( even the term spiritual is subjective, as it holds no true definition, rather more of an individual one)... But despite our own individual thoughts it is often the case that despite 2 people living separate cultures/lives/sexes etc, that often people can have very similar views on relatively deep thought processes... That i find intriguing, especially when it is outside the confides of religion, and is looking at a deeper meaning and picture to why we are here and why/if we exist at all... But taking a scientific approach for proof is definitely a must, but also the intrigue of the thought processes and the gut that leads individuals to locate the scientific outcome... Really science and spirituality arent too far apart, rather in some respects you need both to compliment each other.

I hope i made a little sense, it is very hard to convey the multitude of images going through my head in a paragraph or two! but here i think most people will get that! lol