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13 May 2016, 9:50 am

To stim I constantly pull at my beard and ultimately pull the hairs out. I really would like to stop doing this. I end up with a scraggly beard and a sore chin.

Has anyone successfully managed to change their stims to something less destructive? What did you do?

Note, shaving is not an option!

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13 May 2016, 10:27 am

There was a time (when I was still in denial about being autistic) that I tried to stop stimming because the ones I had were either slightly self harming or annoying to others and I didn't really know why I was doing them. All I had been able to do is replace them, I am so focused on not doing one stim that another one starts happening. So yeah, it definitely is possible.

Just a few days ago I changed which stim I did because the last one was picking at my arms which I wanted to stop for obvious reasons. I have since changed it to rocking back and forth which I did by rocking back and forth when I otherwise would be picking at my arms, it became habit very quickly. I suppose the hardest part is coming up with a new stim to replace your old one with, so good luck with that.


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13 May 2016, 10:42 am

When I was little, I would pick at my scabs. I managed to suppress the habit after years of trying to keep my hands busy and discouragement from the people around me.



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13 May 2016, 10:57 am

It's very possible to change stims - just don't try to extinguish them as that just doesn't work. There is a 'motivation' behind the stim, sometimes more than one. I don't mean a conscious or emotional one, this is the realm of neurology not psychology. But, you have figure out what stimulus is being satiated or balanced when you do that particular stim. Is it keeping your hands busy? Is it the facial sensation? Is it the mild pain? And so on. Whatever you try to replace it with needs to fulfill those same stimulus need(s) and it could be a combination of several. I've found though that it may not always be as obvious as it appears. For instance, I used to tap my fingernails on things; it was annoying to my self and others. I tried various replacements but eventually realized that it was the sound through my body that I needed. Now when I have to I gently tap my incisor teeth together. The force needed to provide the same bone sound sensation in my head is minute so I'm not even close to damaging my teeth.


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13 May 2016, 5:19 pm

plootark wrote:
To stim I constantly pull at my beard and ultimately pull the hairs out. I really would like to stop doing this. I end up with a scraggly beard and a sore chin.

Has anyone successfully managed to change their stims to something less destructive? What did you do?

Note, shaving is not an option!

Thanks


You could try isometric excercises.

If you get the urge to pull on your beard- imagine if you could put off pulling on your beard for a few moments and instead to took those moments to pump iron for a few reps. Imagine if you were to do that daily- substitute beard pulling for pumping iron. You would gradually pull on your beard less, and you might even buff up. in effect turn pumping iron into a substitute "stim".

Well obviously you cant go everywhere in your life (like your job) carrying around free weights.

But- you can take a hint from Charles Atlas and use a little "dynamic tension" by pitting your arm muscles against each other to do the same thing (isometrics).

Have a gertain long standing deep seated behavior like stimming, or like cutting, and when I hit upon the notion of doing isometrics one day- it helped to quell that behavior.



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13 May 2016, 7:43 pm

I have a leather lanyard that clips to my belt loop.
When I am in school I twist it around my fingers and chew on it some, so that I do less distracting stimming like rocking back and forth and moving my hands and arms around a lot.



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15 May 2016, 2:28 pm

This is all I got.

- Give yourself something to play with like blue-tack.
- When you feel the urge to stim don't and let the feeling move through you until it becomes a sensation in the body. I'm convinced that stimming is a distraction from an uncomfortable sensation that you are no yet able to deal with.



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15 May 2016, 4:55 pm

RubyWings91 wrote:
When I was little, I would pick at my scabs. I managed to suppress the habit after years of trying to keep my hands busy and discouragement from the people around me.


Ugh, I do that too. I use up so many Band-Aids from it! Recently I've had to start carrying around Band-Aids with me everywhere I go. O.o


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15 May 2016, 5:06 pm

I would love for one of my behaviors to change (it is self-destructive) and involves using my fingers.


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15 May 2016, 6:29 pm

Lumi wrote:
I would love my one of my behaviors to change (it is self-destructive) and involves using my fingers.


Any idea what triggerings it?


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15 May 2016, 9:27 pm

Edenthiel wrote:
Any idea what triggerings it?

I crave proprioception (sense of body awareness) input. When I feel bad about not doing a task I should, I really want to do something physical- suppressing hand flapping I guess?


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15 May 2016, 9:33 pm

Lumi wrote:
Edenthiel wrote:
Any idea what triggerings it?

I crave proprioception (sense of body awareness) input. When I feel bad about not doing a task I should, I really want to do something physical- suppressing hand flapping I guess?

What is the destructive stim you wish to change, please?


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15 May 2016, 9:42 pm

in grade school, i used to chew on my hair but stopped after i got a bad grade in "is neat and clean." i also used to jiggle my legs under the desk a lot. probably just did that more. all it took was some focused attention.



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15 May 2016, 11:45 pm

Edenthiel wrote:
Lumi wrote:
Edenthiel wrote:
Any idea what triggerings it?

I crave proprioception (sense of body awareness) input. When I feel bad about not doing a task I should, I really want to do something physical- suppressing hand flapping I guess?

What is the destructive stim you wish to change, please?

Mainly skin picking.



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16 May 2016, 3:46 am

Edenthiel wrote:
It's very possible to change stims - just don't try to extinguish them as that just doesn't work. There is a 'motivation' behind the stim, sometimes more than one. I don't mean a conscious or emotional one, this is the realm of neurology not psychology. But, you have figure out what stimulus is being satiated or balanced when you do that particular stim. Is it keeping your hands busy? Is it the facial sensation? Is it the mild pain? And so on. Whatever you try to replace it with needs to fulfill those same stimulus need(s) and it could be a combination of several. I've found though that it may not always be as obvious as it appears. For instance, I used to tap my fingernails on things; it was annoying to my self and others. I tried various replacements but eventually realized that it was the sound through my body that I needed. Now when I have to I gently tap my incisor teeth together. The force needed to provide the same bone sound sensation in my head is minute so I'm not even close to damaging my teeth.


I'm not really sure what it does for me. I just love the way it feels.

I find a hair that is a bit crinkley, or a little thicker and it just feels really good to roll it around in my fingers and perhaps try to straighten it out. If I'm not playing I feel as though the hairs are all out of place and need to be stroked to make them tidy again. My chin then gets more and more ... noticeable until I have to stroke it again to relieve the sensation. I try pulling out a hair and just playing with it off chin, but that doesn't do the same thing. I discard it and get back to the chin.



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16 May 2016, 4:09 am

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You could try isometric excercises.



That sounds like an interesting idea. If I could tire out my arms, they would be less inclined to fidget......