What do NTs mean by "autistics live in their own world"?

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27 May 2016, 4:37 pm

Many NTs I've talked to over the years, and especially those who work with people with autism, often say that people with autism seem to "live in their own world". Most of us are probably familiar with this way to describe those with an ASD, but what exactly is meant by that?



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27 May 2016, 4:55 pm

The "aut" syllable in "autism" means "self" ( like autopilot, automobile, etc).

To be autistic means to be withdrawn, into your own head, and not engaging with outside world, or atleast, not with the outside social world.



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27 May 2016, 5:01 pm

I like to think I'm guilty of that. To a considerable extent, I stand outside of society, I don't run with the pack, I live in my own world because I don't like theirs very much.



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27 May 2016, 6:26 pm

I live in my own world, because the NT world is too demanding.


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27 May 2016, 6:28 pm

I guess it means: "Normal" social interaction doesn't come naturally, so autistics sort of focus on themselves and their own thoughts.

On a possibly related note, I just found out that the Japanese word for autism literally means "self closure disorder." Hm.


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27 May 2016, 6:38 pm

> "What Do NTs Mean By 'Autistics Live In Their Own World'?"

They mean, "I don't like it that you don't pay attention to me." :mrgreen:


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27 May 2016, 7:32 pm

AnaHitori wrote:
On a possibly related note, I just found out that the Japanese word for autism literally means "self closure disorder." Hm.


I remember that, thinking "Disorder? Really?"


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27 May 2016, 7:38 pm

I suspect it's code for "people who don't do things in the normal way that normal people like us do" in many cases. It's a phrase that may be said in a condescending way or a sympathetic one.

More sensitive people might be commenting on the withdrawal inward that occurs when ASD people are bullied, shunned, ignored or excluded in some way. Which is often, so often that it is a shameful statement about neurodominant attitudes translated into aggressive behaviour toward others.



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27 May 2016, 8:16 pm

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I suspect it's code for "people who don't do things in the normal way that normal people like us do" in many cases. It's a phrase that may be said in a condescending way or a sympathetic one.

More sensitive people might be commenting on the withdrawal inward that occurs when ASD people are bullied, shunned, ignored or excluded in some way. Which is often, so often that it is a shameful statement about neurodominant attitudes translated into aggressive behaviour toward others.


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27 May 2016, 10:49 pm

It means they are interacting with other people in a way they recognize.


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27 May 2016, 11:16 pm

Most autistic people have been to some degree socially unresponsive since birth or early childhood and have a more pronounced mental inner life.
This is referred to as being in one's own world.



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28 May 2016, 3:38 am

Marybird wrote:
Most autistic people have been to some degree socially unresponsive since birth or early childhood and have a more pronounced mental inner life.
This is referred to as being in one's own world.


What kind of mental inner life do other people with autism usually have?
Also, any good and short books written by those with autism, which focus more on the inner life? I wonder what kind of inner world other people with autism have.



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28 May 2016, 9:47 am

I kind of think everyone sort of lives in their own world because everyone experiences the world around them differently, and I can never be 100% sure if how I'm experiencing the world is anything like how others experience it.


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28 May 2016, 1:52 pm

somebody30 wrote

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"What kind of mental inner life do other people with autism usually have?
Also, any good and short books written by those with autism, which focus more on the inner life? I wonder what kind of inner world other people with autism have."


"inner life" means withdrawal into you own mind.
It has also been observed through brain imaging.
People With Autism Withdraw From Others Because Autistic Brain Generates 42% More Information While At Rest

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Also, any good and short books written by those with autism, which focus more on the inner life? I wonder what kind of inner world other people with autism have.

"Through the Eyes of Aliens" by Jasmine Lee O'Neill
"The Reason I Jump" by Naoki Higashida



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28 May 2016, 2:40 pm

somebody300 wrote:
Also, any good and short books written by those with autism, which focus more on the inner life? I wonder what kind of inner world other people with autism have.


A Hundred Thousand Hours by Gro Dahle. It's a poetry collection, although I don't know how good the English translation is.



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28 May 2016, 3:20 pm

Marybird wrote:
"inner life" means withdrawal into you own mind.
It has also been observed through brain imaging.
People With Autism Withdraw From Others Because Autistic Brain Generates 42% More Information While At Rest


I always intuitively knew this, and only now science is catching up. I remember back when people were posting BS about autistic people having NO inner life, which is completely wrong.


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