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03 Jun 2016, 11:05 pm

recently I have been thinking of the effects of terminology and the effects of the types of terms used on the quality of discourse. Which got me wondering as to whether nuerotypical was the best term that could be come up with for those the term is used for and whether other useful terms could be thought up.
Personally I had thought of the possibility of the term Doxism, rooted in the Greek word Doxa, meaning popular opinion. The ism would rhetorically reflect their status as a subset of humanity , like autism is subset, and the doxa to give homage to it being a set which was set up from a common opinion of normality.
Just putting forward a thought here



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03 Jun 2016, 11:57 pm

I just call them normal :?



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04 Jun 2016, 12:04 am

Allistic


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04 Jun 2016, 12:15 am

I say non-autistic.


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04 Jun 2016, 12:24 am

I am going to adopt your thoughts and refer to them as Doxists from now.


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04 Jun 2016, 12:58 am

Dog People. Is what I'd say in my head. "He is confused because he is a dog person."
When I was a kid, an elder explained the difference in me was that there are dog people and there are cat people in this world, and I was a cat person, (because I had a cat, I guess). I knew nothing of Autism until a few years ago.

I now believe that life is hyperdimensionaly blasted out of stars and the people that would classify as Neural Typical, came from the Earth's star, The Sun, while some of us have been traveling at or above light speed from other stars to catch a matter lifeform here to be. So I guess I think of them now as Sun People. They are young locals while I am just passing through.



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04 Jun 2016, 1:24 am

I tend to call them "mainstreamers," because I went for many years without knowing about autism, and I ended up aligning strongly with the avant garde, alternativists, oddballs, dropouts, hippies etc., as I found those folks were very often much more capable of empathising with me and treating me like a respected equal. I also used to call them "straights" but people mistook that for "heterosexuals" which caused a lot of confusion. "Suits" was sometimes quite good, but Doc Martin wears a suit and he's very likely one of us. "Right-wingers" works surprisingly well for me but only because I align with the left, which not all Aspies do. Ditto for "religionists," as I'm an atheist. The neat thing about "mainstreamers" is that few people seem to identify as that, so it doesn't seem to cause much offense when I'm ranting about what I dislike about "the other lot." Often I wonder if there is such a thing as a complete and utter "other lot" person.



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04 Jun 2016, 1:37 am

About 1% of the world population has autism spectrum disorder. (CDC, 2014). Prevalence in the United States is estimated at 1 in 68.

So I'm thinking, "society", "society in general", "everybody", "everybody else", "humans"....

It's kinda hard to segregate, marginalize or stereotype 99% of the world's population.



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04 Jun 2016, 1:57 am

Like CockneyRebel said, allistic. It is already a somewhat popular term which is even mentioned on Wikipedia that I myself have considered using in place of "neurotipical" which is a term I dislike because it implies that there is a such thing as a typical neurology and often (but not always, the ambiguity is annoying) excludes other disorders like AD(H)D.

Eh, now is as good a time as any. From now on I will use "allistic" instead of "neurotipical" and just so nobody is confused I will put a definition in my forum signature. I have been planning to do this for a few days anyway.


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04 Jun 2016, 2:07 am

I don't mind allistic when I need a word specifically to mean non-autistic in context. Sorta like trans- & cis-. But much of the time I'm probably going to continue using neurotypical because usually the context of the conversation can be expanded to be more inclusive. Also, autism isn't very clearly defined so it's opposite is equally undefined. And finally, autism is a spectrum. Many spectra, really; one for each attribute that we might or might not have to some degree.


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04 Jun 2016, 2:28 am

Neuromainstream or Neuromajority?


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04 Jun 2016, 3:56 am

I like non Autistic because it specifically means, does not have Autism but it does not imply that you could not have something else.


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04 Jun 2016, 4:28 am

I don't use the term "non-autistic" to label NTs because some people are non-NT but not autistic.

When I use "NT", it's just used as a short way of saying "people who weren't born with anything mentally 'wrong', were intellectually average through school, or haven't (yet) developed any condition at any point in their life like dementia, schizephrenia, brain-damage, etc".
This excludes people who are drug-addicts or alcoholics, as it's choice of lifestyle. Also excludes people who have sunk into depression, unless the depression gets so out of hand that the person starts doing abnormal things (without being under any influence of drugs or alcohol).
People who are dyslexic could or couldn't be NT, depending on how it affects their life. Some dyslexics can have difficulties with other things which can interfere with their daily life.
My friend has Fragile-X, but I wouldn't consider NT just because she hasn't been recognised for ASD. She still has difficulties making friends and her behaviour and development was affected as a child.


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04 Jun 2016, 4:49 am

I call them "Normies". This is basically the large body of the population without any mental health issues.

Neurotypical, in my experience, tends to mean "people without autism/aspergers". I find fault in this, as its quite specific. Normies is a better more broad sweeping term, making it easier for generalising. It's also adopted by most of us on the internet, and can be used by those with other mental health conditions (borderline personality, schizophrenia, etc.) just to refer to normal people.

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04 Jun 2016, 5:01 am

Joe90 wrote:
I don't use the term "non-autistic" to label NTs because some people are non-NT but not autistic.
That is the exact reason why I use the term non Autistic. Because the only thing it says and means is that the person is not Autistic. It says nothing else and implies nothing else. So, by definition, someone who is not NT and not Autistic would absolutely fit in that category as well as someone who is NT.


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04 Jun 2016, 8:58 am

Just saw my first "X Men" movie a few days ago.

From now on I am going to refer to myself, and my fellow ASD'ers as "the Mutants", and to others (with a snear in my voice) as "the Humans".

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