Am I alright or what is wrong with me?
Hello,
First of I am sorry for the selection of the Screen-Name just do not want to get noticed. What I mean is that to make sure no way to identify me visiting these boards under normal browsing. I know, it is possible to obtain the information for the webmaster / moderator. But since I am not doing anything illegal like to maintain my privacy more. Reason came here is because trying to learn more about this disorder. Me, myself never have been diagnosed with the disease. Not sure if I fit in any forms of this disorder or not. (sorry for so many I's not sure other way to put it). I like, Electronics, Robotics and all forms of technology.I build my Computers myself to any advanced level. Right here on my desk are sitting about 4 Electronic books. Such things as using Computers to program Micro controllers. not to far off me, tons of Math books, Math cdroms. Trying to learn C# sharp to later get Microsoft's Robotics studio. I use Linux, any flavors do not bother me. Realize my point here is to describe my interests a little or allot to get hang of my brain. Never been to this forum before so others have no way to know me. In High School few years ago taken an Electronics course did well. Almost finished with my Electronics degree. Have plans to pursue Robotics but have a dreaded problem.
But what prompted me to this board was a bit of research. First off, I was recommended to a Autistic foundation "for any guidance" few years ago. As part of Court hearings( not a felon but over my person loss (loss of life) and private and do not want to share it here). I am still living with my mom, (age not disclosed again for privacy but hint: Fit Generation Y) never had a first job. I am alone most of the time, while my mom works. I cry myself to sleep daily. Because I do not want to be on her Neck. But, I am afraid of certain situations such as living in dorms. What life like living alone? It is a constant fear. Goodness sometimes feel like an 8 year old. Because I do not produce, rather consume. Recently started my own business though online and hoping it will offer some income. Built it myself, hosting it myself on Linux. To help out, to a certain degree.
I used to have friends and one who was a heavy back stabber. I still have a best friend in the whole wide world. Although he is recently married, has a job in the real world. So try not to bother him. He does want me to come over to meet his wife, as I was too afraid to fly over to another State during marriage "myself". All sorts of thoughts were going through my head to take the flight. Anyhow, he also calls me brilliant (again these lines are not for bragging rights or show off, my point again is who I am not dumber down). As was writing this up, he called me, wants to take me to dinner. Not just anything can eat as have eating problems. Swallowing food going on 9 or so years now. Certain foods needs to be done on a mixer so imagine how embarrassing that can be. He is a very good friend for not even giving up on me and my issues. My main problem is "If I do this" "What action should I expect?" highly afraid of rejections, reprisals and if people have bad opinion of me (shy away). For instance take a car, even though I closed my friends door correctly. I had to wait zillion times for his approval. If I did it correctly, although did it correctly each and every time! Worrying did I slam the door too hard and possibly breaking anything?
Always think of my past, present and resulting actions of everything. Love neatness, god forbid my mom moves things that look not neat to me. Have to set it up a certain way only to be happy. Everything has to be sequential and in a logical way and must exactly be that way. If things are incorrectly ordered pick it up quickly and rearrange it to be like a list (typical of left brain thinkers). Did a quiz online, it said am mostly left. But the test is not scientifically proven. My IQ is normal according to other tests it even given me few extra points then the average. Fast witted and sometimes can turn a situation around. Other times very anxious and lost. If someone hurts me spiritually it will mean the whole day is wasted. Will keep replaying, replaying the mean hurtful things. Will try to analyze again and again the situation what led up to it and way it was done , said etc. My teeth started to appear later then most infants and speech was slighlt delayed. My walking was not too bad but mom did say was a bit awkward until got bit older. Later bloomer as she puts it.
So am I autistic to a certain degree or have some other problem? Now, I know forums are not meant for diagnosis. Especially not knowing the person at all. Just what would you possibly conclude from the above? Do not know, seeing a shrink does not make me comfortable. As it associates normally people who are out of their mind. I am sometimes in my own world but very responsive and easily can tune to anything at any given moment. Also since I am working age do not want to have it on the cards. Keep in mind, I do want to work, But I am so afraid of anything that I barely leave my house without my mom. She is the one paying half the time at the counter. Although I can count the money myself but afraid to be cheated on. It is like she is with a small kid although I am a young grown man. I do not want to be a burden, really I do. Bought a self help book other day in Barnels and Nobles.
This post is not neat had to think of my qualities both good and bad. It is not easy to do that being the sole person.
Thanks for reading
Last edited by Runaway on 05 May 2007, 10:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I'd like to preface this all by saying that you should in no way consider my opinion remotely professional.
I'm not one to diagnose others, but it sounds to me like you have some form of chronic anxiety or another; if you haven't any qualms about taking medication, I'd suggest seeking a psychiatrist who could put you on something to calm your nerves. Although I despise prescription medication, I can say from personal experience that drugs such as Ativan can certainly get the job done. But still, there's no way I can offer anything more than speculation in this regard; I'm hardly qualified even to make the above observations; you do, as you have stated, display many traits of Asperger Syndrome as well, and I'm sure a professional opinion would be much more helpful than mine in your case.
I can, however, offer you some advice. Now, I'm younger than you, so I once again have the lower hand here, but I can say this: A few years back, I had a lot of the same problems you're describing here, at least the social issues. The best advice I can give you is that you have to put a little more confidence in those around you. People are startlingly empathetic creatures, and they have quite a willingness to forgive and accept those around them. Stop worrying about any faux pas you might make along the way; ninety percent of the time, people won't care. Don't refrain from asserting yourself in fear of rejection; those around you should (and will) adapt to you, just as you are expected to adapt to them. If you are faced with rejection or humiliation, consider this; are the kind of people who are so unforgiving really the kind of people you want to be around anyway?
Above all, do what feels right; I have discovered, time and time again, that impulse is the only rational course of action in nearly every situation. And once again, I urge you to disregard my opinion in full, and wait for someone older to reply to your query. Hope everything works out for you, autism or otherwise.
(Note: Edited grammar's sake.)
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Quimby is NOT a four-letter word.
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You have narrow interests, social difficulties, stick to a routine, etc.
"Gooble-gobble, gooble-gobble, one of us, one of us."
Either implied I am a Chicken or someone is having a turkey. Ok, I'll absorb that and thanks for the quick reply!
Um, did not learn this until started to research myself this. Think this might be true as reading wikipedias and looking through the web. Ask.com, Google msn and Yahoo. Not my favorite search engine though. What are my options of living a normal life? Meant my mom will not be their forever to help me out. I need to become more independent and pretty sure can start somewhere. To help myself out or cope with things better instead of being a hermit.
I'm not one to diagnose others, but it sounds to me like you have some form of chronic anxiety or another; if you haven't any qualms about taking medication, I'd suggest seeking a psychiatrist who could put you on something to calm your nerves. Although I despise prescription medication, I can say from personal experience that drugs such as Ativan can certainly get the job done. But still, there's no way I can offer anything more than speculation in this regard; I'm hardly qualified even to make the above observations; you do, as you have stated, display many traits of Asperger Syndrome as well, and I'm sure a professional opinion would be much more helpful than mine in your case.
I can, however, offer you some advice. Now, I'm younger than you, so I once again have the lower hand here, but I can say this: A few years back, I had a lot of the same problems you're describing here, at least the social issues. The best advice I can give you is that you have to put a little more confidence in those around you. People are startlingly empathetic creatures, and they have quite a willingness to forgive and accept those around them. Stop worrying about any faux pas you might make along the way; ninety percent of the time, people won't care. Don't refrain from asserting yourself in fear of rejection; those around you should (and will) adapt to you, just as you are expected to adapt to them. If you are faced with rejection or humiliation, consider this; are the kind of people who are so unforgiving really the kind of people you want to be around anyway?
Above all, do what feels right; I have discovered, time and time again, that impulse is the only rational course of action in nearly every situation. And once again, I urge you to disregard my opinion in full, and wait for someone older to reply to your query. Hope everything works out for you, autism or otherwise.
I understand what you wrote is not to be taken for someone with a PHD. Also understand you are younger then me, but that does not mean you should resort to muteness. You too can have a word and I thank You for sharing it. I hope I am not sounding peculiar, but do appreciate what you said. It is very difficult sometimes to a point of wanting to cry. Even posting my reply to you (and others) is like a Ball drop giving birth in other words. Because want to convey my messege to you. Where it is both appropriate and with the same respect as those writing to me. If missed anything would like to say read it all and understood it all.
P.S: Don't watch it as only movies I like are Adventures mystical / mystifying. With certain (limited exceptions) of Comedy. Must hold my interest long enough though.
Last edited by Runaway on 05 May 2007, 11:05 pm, edited 5 times in total.
what Quimby said is true. People are not evil, and people don't care.
Usually I go out of the house to pick the newspaper in the morning, wearing my pajamas (a short hehe), and I don't care. I say to myself "do I owe this people anything? No", it's my life, to "hell" with everyone else. I don't say "to hell" in a bad sense, but in a way to stop myself over-thinking stuff.
Most of the time to stop over-thinking works, and in a big way
you mention you like reading, this book helped me a lot:
http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meani ... 0671023373
Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl, a very very little book, but so great, I
even freely gave copies of it, and when I was left out of copies, I gave mine
I need to buy it again
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual."
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Runaway,
AS isn't a disease:
"dreaded problem"? I'm ALSO interested in electronics, robotics, computers, etc... Though I never mentioned computers here per se, it is implied and I DID mention work with DNC which is a kind of robotics.
I doubt you REALLY mean you build computers yourself, but I HAVE built one. Wirewrapped! Of course, I assembled many(which is what most today mean when they say built). I learned a ton of computer languages.(Though I only really know a little more than a half dozen now, ones I learned include Pascal, Basic, Fortran, Korn, COBOL, C, C++,DIBOL, FORTRAN, LISP, FORTH, 6502, 80386, VAX Macro, PDP 11,PERL, PHP,Z80, and a few others) Your love for order is like I used to be. I got tired of MY mother constantly changing things! I recently DID decide to do what I could to get back to how I was. To a fair degree you sound like I am. It sounds like your doctor may have been right. But HEY, it IS known as the "geek disease"! Again, you don't catch it, it isn't acquired, it isn't contagious, and isn't necessarily bad, so it isn't a disease. HEY, I built a CAREER on it!
And I didn't say anything to brag either. Heck, as good as one is, there is ALWAYS someone better. The only one I really try to compete with is myself and my own perceptions.
Steve
what Quimby said is true. People are not evil, and people don't care.
Usually I go out of the house to pick the newspaper in the morning, wearing my pajamas (a short hehe), and I don't care. I say to myself "do I owe this people anything? No", it's my life, to "hell" with everyone else. I don't say "to hell" in a bad sense, but in a way to stop myself over-thinking stuff.
Most of the time to stop over-thinking works, and in a big way
you mention you like reading, this book helped me a lot:
http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meani ... 0671023373
Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl, a very very little book, but so great, I
even freely gave copies of it, and when I was left out of copies, I gave mine
I need to buy it again
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life - daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual."
Thanks computerlove, That is funny thing heard about going outside for routine mail in shorts (sounds like boxer shorts). If it makes you not embarrassed which it seems it does not that is good. Actually, few years ago we had a gentleman going in shorts during the winter. Now think that is more strange when it is below 0 degrees.
I am not going to lie that I will get the book or not or not. But will see if maybe will get it have already a long book on self help. Not even past half of it yet!
AS isn't a disease:
>> "dreaded problem"? I'm ALSO interested in electronics, robotics, computers, etc... Though I >> never mentioned computers here per se, it is implied and I DID mention work with DNC which >> is a kind of robotics.
Dreeded problem: "Fear" / being afraid.
No, I build computers but not what you think, think caught what your thinking. Actually building the Computer parts. That is a very, very expensive investment. Hang out on IRC robotics / Electronics.
Goodness so many languages , you built a career too I think your refering to Autism later. Where it works to your advantage rather then against you. So you now know it as geek disease rather then anything else. Keep in mind no doctor found me to have it but the Lawyer (and staff) were ones refered me. Guess since they work 8-5 with people and based on what they do. They must have a bit of psychological backing. Think it makes sense as your trying to win a case! They must know the mental makeup of the clients. I can not make a diagnosis myself on it. Rather then whatever I do have is bringing me into the walls. All the posters here offered me interesting things.
>>better. The only one I really try to compete with is myself and my own perceptions.
Steve
Just do not want to be someone that shows off how smart or brilliant they are. Perhaps, my own inner self esteem or certain not understandings thinks this way. That it is a negative
to display pride or self worth.
to display pride.
I always try not to brag about "being good" at something.
I remember when I lived in another state (studying), that I shared a house with two other people, total strangers. I clearly remember that I, as always, didn't brag about something I just had done, and one of them said: "BRAG! be PROUD of yourself!".
Man, he opened my eyes.
So, brag man, be proud!
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One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
First of I am sorry for the selection of the Screen-Name just do not want to get noticed. What I mean is that to make sure no way to identify me visiting these boards under normal browsing. I know, it is possible to obtain the information for the webmaster / moderator. But since I am not doing anything illegal like to maintain my privacy more. Reason came here is because trying to learn more about this disorder. Me, myself never have been diagnosed with the disease. Not sure if I fit in any forms of this disorder or not. (sorry for so many I's not sure other way to put it). I like, Electronics, Robotics and all forms of technology.I build my Computers myself to any advanced level. Right here on my desk are sitting about 4 Electronic books. Such things as using Computers to program Micro controllers. not to far off me, tons of Math books, Math cdroms. Trying to learn C# sharp to later get Microsoft's Robotics studio. I use Linux, any flavors do not bother me. Realize my point here is to describe my interests a little or allot to get hang of my brain. Never been to this forum before so others have no way to know me. In High School few years ago taken an Electronics course did well. Almost finished with my Electronics degree. Have plans to pursue Robotics but have a dreaded problem.
But what prompted me to this board was a bit of research. First off, I was recommended to a Autistic foundation "for any guidance" few years ago. As part of Court hearings( not a felon but over my person loss (loss of life) and private and do not want to share it here). I am still living with my mom, (age not disclosed again for privacy but hint: Fit Generation Y) never had a first job. I am alone most of the time, while my mom works. I cry myself to sleep daily. Because I do not want to be on her Neck. But, I am afraid of certain situations such as living in dorms. What life like living alone? It is a constant fear. Goodness sometimes feel like an 8 year old. Because I do not produce, rather consume. Recently started my own business though online and hoping it will offer some income. Built it myself, hosting it myself on Linux. To help out, to a certain degree.
I used to have friends and one who was a heavy back stabber. I still have a best friend in the whole wide world. Although he is recently married, has a job in the real world. So try not to bother him. He does want me to come over to meet his wife, as I was too afraid to fly over to another State during marriage "myself". All sorts of thoughts were going through my head to take the flight. Anyhow, he also calls me brilliant (again these lines are not for bragging rights or show off, my point again is who I am not dumber down). As was writing this up, he called me, wants to take me to dinner. Not just anything can eat as have eating problems. Swallowing food going on 9 or so years now. Certain foods needs to be done on a mixer so imagine how embarrassing that can be. He is a very good friend for not even giving up on me and my issues. My main problem is "If I do this" "What action should I expect?" highly afraid of rejections, reprisals and if people have bad opinion of me (shy away). For instance take a car, even though I closed my friends door correctly. I had to wait zillion times for his approval. If I did it correctly, although did it correctly each and every time! Worrying did I slam the door too hard and possibly breaking anything?
Always think of my past, present and resulting actions of everything. Love neatness, god forbid my mom moves things that look not neat to me. Have to set it up a certain way only to be happy. Everything has to be sequential and in a logical way and must exactly be that way. If things are incorrectly ordered pick it up quickly and rearrange it to be like a list (typical of left brain thinkers). Did a quiz online, it said am mostly left. But the test is not scientifically proven. My IQ is normal according to other tests it even given me few extra points then the average. Fast witted and sometimes can turn a situation around. Other times very anxious and lost. If someone hurts me spiritually it will mean the whole day is wasted. Will keep replaying, replaying the mean hurtful things. Will try to analyze again and again the situation what led up to it and way it was done , said etc. My teeth started to appear later then most infants and speech was slighlt delayed. My walking was not too bad but mom did say was a bit awkward until got bit older. Later bloomer as she puts it.
So am I autistic to a certain degree or have some other problem? Now, I know forums are not meant for diagnosis. Especially not knowing the person at all. Just what would you possibly conclude from the above? Do not know, seeing a shrink does not make me comfortable. As it associates normally people who are out of their mind. I am sometimes in my own world but very responsive and easily can tune to anything at any given moment. Also since I am working age do not want to have it on the cards. Keep in mind, I do want to work, But I am so afraid of anything that I barely leave my house without my mom. She is the one paying half the time at the counter. Although I can count the money myself but afraid to be cheated on. It is like she is with a small kid although I am a young grown man. I do not want to be a burden, really I do. Bought a self help book other day in Barnels and Nobles.
This post is not neat had to think of my qualities both good and bad. It is not easy to do that being the sole person.
Thanks for reading
The first thing I would say is to bring attention to something you said in your post, which I took the liberty of italicizing. Asperger's Syndrome is NOT a disease. It is a neural abnormality that is passed on through hereditary means. If it were a disease, it would be able to propagate through some means other than genetics. There IS a difference. I'm not saying this to be mean, but calling it a disease is confusing and could lead people to take the wrong impression as to our true nature.
Secondly, although i understand your need for confidentiality, you act as if we would betray you if you revealed anything about yourself. I assure you that wrongplanet is somewhat of a sanctuary. Although people with malicious intent do appear from time to time, they are quickly found out and banned. I can understand if you don't want to reveal your true name over the internet, but you needn't feel uncomfortable about telling us a bit about yourself while still retaining a comfortable degree of anonymity. I assure you that no one here will betray your status to anyone that you know.
Thirdly, your posts convey the thought that having AS will mark and condemn you for life. This is utterly, absurdly wrong. True, you are diffrerent from the rest of the world. True, people will hate you for it. That is human nature. However, there is also good that can come of this. I myself have AS, and because of it, my first 8 years of public schooling were hell on earth. However, i perservered and sought to change myself. The AS made me intelligent enough so that i could learn logically what i could not know instinctively. Now i am a sophomore in high school, and although i still prefer solitude, i have friends and i know how to socialise. To this day, i see my spirit as that of a phoenix, a phoenix that has been incinerated in a hellish environment only to rise from the ashes, revitalized and better than it was before. My overall point is, AS can be a blessing as well as a curse.
I apologize for going off on a tangent like this, i did not mean to have this post so long. I hope you find answers here, and i welcome you to WP with open arms.
Regards,
Roxas XIII
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to display pride.
I always try not to brag about "being good" at something.
I remember when I lived in another state (studying), that I shared a house with two other people, total strangers. I clearly remember that I, as always, didn't brag about something I just had done, and one of them said: "BRAG! be PROUD of yourself!".
Man, he opened my eyes.
So, brag man, be proud!
First thing have to improve understanding other people improve my problem solving (find way for independence). Honestly, before did not even know what autism was. Meant the word was not even used to make people aware. Recently TV, Internet even the radio raising awareness. Learning day by day that maybe I am. Have to learn to accept who I am by Birth. Going to hang around this place and read things. In procees maybe learn a thing or two who knows. Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my thread. Hoping to get to know all of you here and be a good netizen here.
The first thing I would say is to bring attention to something you said in your post, which I took the liberty of italicizing. Asperger's Syndrome is NOT a disease. It is a neural abnormality that is passed on through hereditary means. If it were a disease, it would be able to propagate through some means other than genetics. There IS a difference. I'm not saying this to be mean, but calling it a disease is confusing and could lead people to take the wrong impression as to our true nature.
Secondly, although i understand your need for confidentiality, you act as if we would betray you if you revealed anything about yourself. I assure you that wrongplanet is somewhat of a sanctuary. Although people with malicious intent do appear from time to time, they are quickly found out and banned. I can understand if you don't want to reveal your true name over the internet, but you needn't feel uncomfortable about telling us a bit about yourself while still retaining a comfortable degree of anonymity. I assure you that no one here will betray your status to anyone that you know.
Thirdly, your posts convey the thought that having AS will mark and condemn you for life. This is utterly, absurdly wrong. True, you are diffrerent from the rest of the world. True, people will hate you for it. That is human nature. However, there is also good that can come of this. I myself have AS, and because of it, my first 8 years of public schooling were hell on earth. However, i perservered and sought to change myself. The AS made me intelligent enough so that i could learn logically what i could not know instinctively. Now i am a sophomore in high school, and although i still prefer solitude, i have friends and i know how to socialise. To this day, i see my spirit as that of a phoenix, a phoenix that has been incinerated in a hellish environment only to rise from the ashes, revitalized and better than it was before. My overall point is, AS can be a blessing as well as a curse.
I apologize for going off on a tangent like this, i did not mean to have this post so long. I hope you find answers here, and i welcome you to WP with open arms.
Regards,
Roxas XIII
Thank You Roxas for making me feel welcomed the ending sentences helped me understand your tone (if your upset with me etc). Surprised that before tonight did not give much thought of why can't I always understand peoples tones? People would say something like: "No silly, I am not angry with you ... you misunderstood me... etc". Going to stick around and explore other parts like said before. You mentioned about School, hum, can relate to you not going to elaborate at the moment. But you yourself likely know what I mean what Schooling is like. Few years ago people were not aware of AS (when was a Student) to this extent. Going to just call it a disorder as it is not illness. Sorry for making it sound like was implying. If I do have it (the disorder) or not, I can say for "us" as a whole we are really normal people. Of course, it is impossible to judge oneself. Speaking to you here reassures me of the general comprehension. Our thinking capacities are just like of others. But we are different in certain ways Hope that School works out for at first glance (based on knowing) you you seem like a good spirited soul. Where you seek to change things around in your life.
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Yes you definitely have Asperger's Syndrom.
You may not have 100% of the symptoms but very few people actually do.
Just remember, you don't have to think of it as a "disease" you are really just "different". And everyone breaks from the norm at least a little, you just break from it more then most other people.
Just learn to get out of your comfort zone once in a while. I just signed up for Speech II and Drama for my senior year of high school just for that purpose (and I had nothing else to take, not enough computer classes!). I also managed to ask a girl to the prom.... turns out she wasn't going, which was somewhat of a disappointment but I still felt better afterwards.
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