Video about what autism really is -and it's NOT a "disorder"

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Uplifting stuff! Highly recommended to watch!





The second video is from one of my favorite trance channelers, Abraham Hicks. I know the video is labeled "parenting" but it's very valuable information for everyone. And I'm pretty sure the first video is also channeled info (really enjoyed that one). So this is top notch stuff.

What are your thoughts?

I know about Abraham Hicks, she is full of nonsense! Autism isn't a choice, we don't choose our parents before birth etc. If there is some spiritual power out there then it is karma and not some law of attraction! Autism is a disorder, if a person cannot speak and cannot eat without help then just admit it, it is a disorder!

Believe whatever you want, it's your choice if you want to remain feeling like a victim. Just another perspective. And by the way, trance channeling has been proven by science to be real... it hasn't been proven that the entities coming through are real or not, but the trance state these channelers go into has been proven to be an altered state of consciousness, by being hooked up to machines that test their brainwaves.

Also, it's much more common than you may think. I personally know a few people who channel, and they don't do it for money or fame or anything, it's a more private thing they can do just for friends or whatever.

Just sayin...

Autiam isn't a disorder?

HAWT DAMN says every State government who funnels money into SPED programs.

HUZZAH! says every insurance company. No more paying out for OT/Speech/PT/ABA and mental health. Oh yeah..better get another diagnosis for your kid's clonidine. Since Autism needs no treatment, you need no prescription.

If that was true, the celebration from State/Federal government and the insurance cabal could be heard on Pluto.

Becareful what you wish for...

So the government/society knows everything? People used to think being gay was a disorder, but now we know it's just a different set of preferences than what's considered "normal". Couldn't autism be the same way? Society trying so hard to make autistics fit in and "act normal"... it's like saying all boys should only wear blue and if someone happens to prefer the color pink instead, that means there's something wrong with them because they won't fit in how they're supposed to.

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You sure it's a benevolent being on the other end? Not something lurking in the abyss? And if channeling is real, is it a good idea? There would be cosmic horrors mankind was never meant to know of!

ASD stands for Autism Spectrum Disorders, therefore it is a disorder.

Did u see my post above? I'll copy it again:

So the government/society knows everything? People used to think being gay was a disorder, but now we know it's just a different set of preferences than what's considered "normal". Couldn't autism be the same way? Society trying so hard to make autistics fit in and "act normal"... it's like saying all boys should only wear blue and if someone happens to prefer the color pink instead, that means there's something wrong with them because they won't fit in how they're supposed to.

Gay is a sexual diversity. Autism and ADHD is a neurological diversity.

Read The Difficult Child by Stanley Turecki.

The book seemed to be describing autistic behaviors and ADHD and sensory processing disorder but yet he was saying all these kids were normal. Yes they hit all their milestones but yet they have differences. Their minds work different, they require different kind of parenting, different structure, different environment but you have to work with the child. But yet these kids are considered normal meaning they have no disorders at all. To me a difficult child seems to mean someone who is between normal and abnormal. Yes they are different but they are not different enough to have a condition. Seems to me that these kids would slip in between the school system. It's like being a slow learner. They are too dumb to be normal but they are not dumb enough to have a intellectual impairment so therefore they are still considered normal. This author even wrote some of these kids to get diagnosed by other doctors. Basically to be disabled, everything has to meet your needs and if your problems are still there, you are not normal. I can understand now where my mother comes from when she would tell me I am normal and says I am a normal person.

So this comes down to it doesn't matter how many autistic features you have, they have to impair you, not cause you a nuisance in your environment and I guess how people treat you doesn't count as an impairment.

Do I believe that so called difficult kids can have disabilities, absolutely. The author mentioned learning disabilities and language impairments. But now this comes down to what in the world is normal? What does it mean that there is something wrong with a child and nothing wrong with a child? My mom read this book when I was a kid and I can remember seeing the book cover and it made me feel bad because I was a difficult child. Why else would she be reading it? Now it makes me wonder if my son is just difficult than ADHD. I wonder how many autistic people out there are just difficult people than autistic. I could just be difficult. But I learned from that book that labeling so called "normal" kids isn't anything new. It was happening in the 80's too or the doctor wouldn't have mentioned in his book that some of these kids do get diagnosed.

You have completely misunderstood Tawaki's post. Do really want autistic people to lose all the supports that they need? Even people on the higher end of the spectrum need a certain amount of disability support in order to be accommodated in a place of work and in order to live independently. While I understand that you don't want autism to stigmatised and to be accepted by society (which I do as well), if society get's the idea that autism is not a disorder then NT's will take it as us not needing those supports and therefore will not make the necessary accommodations.

Anything that results in people needing special accommodations and services for them to be able to make it is considered a disability. Gay people do not need those, that's the biggest difference.

Yeah i used to believe this.

The diagnoses of autism is dictated on whether or not the individual can or cannot function on basic tasks without support.

So if you are not affected or have never been negatively affected by autism, then you aren't autistic, therefor, do not have a disorder. So you are partially correct.(That in mind, a person with autism can ADAPT functioning coping mechanisms to make life easier, they still may have required support when younger, it doesnt mean they are not autistic)

I dont feel like a victim, well, sometimes i feel really beaten down by my symptoms. But think about it, i need to try 50x harder than any "neurotypical". I constantly have to translate spoken words to pictures, cooking is like rocket science, leaving the house is like entering a battlefield, socializing is like trying to interpret modern art.

And i still came a long way, i dont bash my head into walls anymore, airplanes no longer make me meltdown, i can do my own laundry now. These are huge accomplishments for me but compared to other 19 year olds its pretty far behind.

It is the way it is, i am disabled, slightly. There are some things that i may never understand and be able to do, there are some things that may take forever to figure out but there are also things i can do better than others.

No. It. Has. Not.

You want to believe in this voodoo hoodoo that's fine. You want to share it with others and offer it as a perspective that's fine too.

But don't invoke science to claim your pseudo religious ideas are true.

Unless you can cite multiple peer reviewed research papers that have been accepted as true via scientific consensus you have no right to claim science has proven anything.

The best you can state is that science has proven the existence of trance like states of mind.

Science has not proven channeling, nor has it even proven that Abraham Hicks is actually entering trance like states.

Everyone is entitled to their own set of opinions (up until their opinion starts causing harm to others) but we are all subject to just one set of facts.

I think people with Asperger's and Autism will be more stigmatized if we stop labeling it a disorder. If it is not a disorder, then we should be able to act like everyone else, reach the same developmental milestones at the same time as everyone else, etc. When we don't, we will just be labeled something unpleasant (stupid, loser, lazy, not trying hard enough, etc), not as having a disorder that keeps us from those things.

Yeah and those kids wouldn't qualify for an IEP either and will be labeled as having a behavior disorder or being emotionally disturbed or something. Well emotional disturbance does qualify for IEP and so do behavior disorders (also go under the IEP category emotional disturbance) but it wouldn't give the autistic child the help to a degree they need it.

I believe channeling is real...but I don't believe Esther Hicks is a genuine channel.

If you take something positive and useful away from these videos, I don't want to negate that. But I think autism is a way too complex to try to distill it down to either of those perspectives.

I feel the same way about Seth's comments on autism - although in general I really like Seth - his perspective on autism was really inane.

Autism is so highly heritable...I think the answer to what it really is lies in genetics...and it probably goes back a very long time ago, to Atlantis and the genetic experimentation and hybridization that went on there. The legends of Enki and Enlil and other genetic scientists creating a human hybrid (Rh+) slave race are about Atlantis. The books of Genesis and Jasher are also about Atlantis, its destruction in the flood, and what happened to the survivors.

Autism is a syndrome with more than one etiology...but I believe genetic, inherited autism is probably a vestige of what humanity was before it was tampered with genetically. And as others have speculated it is probably a throwback to Neanderthal genetics. The same is probably true of many other heritable disorders and diseases.

However the manifestation of autism as a modern-day disorder might be the result of conflicting genetics, due to hybridization and cross-breeding...and/or could be the result epigenetic triggering via environmental factors - including deliberate tactics by the hidden global elite to target certain genetics. After all, those genetic scientists did survive Atlantis and they have certainly passed down their knowledge in secret societies.

It's great to look for the positives, and there are many, but bottom line most people who have autism do experience this as a disorder and/or a disability...and most need supports to survive it in the world as it currently is.