NVLD think in pictures too?

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is that a specified in criteria for NVLD or does it pertain specifically to autism?

tried skimming for it... but didn't find anything outright.

Anyone is capable of thinking in pictures, NT or otherwise. I think it is more prevalent amongst non typicals though.

Actually I did a straw poll about this specifically because I don't think in images. NT think in images most of the time. Most of them where able to see a photographic quantity image of a tree.

I'm still not even sure where I would fall here. I can kind of see things. I can navigate places, etc... HECK, I could write you a map of the area around the school where I went to preschool, even though I haven't been there for well over 30 years. I still remember the pictures of the rocket pops, on an icecream van that parked there, and that they had STP stickers. I remember how the tree they parked near looked. I don't remember all the kids. I know there was a building near it, and the shape, etc... I don't remember all the doors. More recently, I remember the front page of a document I was recently given. I remember some of the large writing. I don't remember the smaller writing. HECK, I only remember perhaps 18 "teachers", and I don't know the full naems of most of them. I could go on....

In short, it is ALMOST like I have a photographic memory, but it is a bit far sighted like my regular eyesight.

So how do I rate?

I SHOULD tell you that I have met people that say they have a PHOTOGRAPHIC memory. I tested every one I could, and ALL FLUNKED! The last one, for example, said she had a photographic memory, and saw my name on my badge. I only had one badge with my name, and I asked her what I was wearing. ****I**** would likely have passed that. SHE flunked! She admited she didn't really.

As for NTs? Memory Courses indicate that THEY are generally no better than I am. Of course, if they had truly photographic memories, remembering wouldn't be nearly so difficult.

Steve

I think people with NVLD really primarily think in words rather than in pictures. I even first thought when reading about it that they only think in words and can't get any visual image into their head at all, but then I found out that it's also possible to have NVLD and still be able to think in pictures, just the pictures are not very vivid. Also abstract things are much harder to picture. So I think generally the ability is there, it's just not as good as with NTs. I've read about people with NLD also though who really seem not to be able to picture anything in their head at all, not even simple things so to say, so I wouldn't say anyone is capable of it.

Er... what is NVLD?

Non Verbal Learning Disorder. Ironically, I think it is part of AS!

Steve

yes but... PREDOMINANTLY thinking in pics is associated with autism... wondering if it's at least characterized in a lot of NLVD too or if that applies less strictly

it's kinda nested within AS... encompassed... which is why i'm wondering if it's mentioned at the NLVD level

i really identified with grandin's description of thinking in pics.... where whenever you say a word... a specific pic pops up... and not a generalized one... usually something specific from childhood.

i do this a lot... and i always have this thing blip across my mental radar for most anything i hear... which is why i actually do kind of enjoy listening to lyrics in music (was a topic of another thread.... though they are by no menas my criteria for enjoying MUSIC) especially for hiphop (not hippop) as they use very interesting imagery and weird combinations of words

i think lots of people can be good at thinking visually... but there is a distinction between that and generally thinking in pics... i mean anyone that can type thinks in words to some degree.

Having pictures from childhood fly by at every word would be distracting to say the least. And I could then easily understand how exhausting it must be. That DOES sometimes happen with me with SOME words, though usually music does that. Then again, the word groovy might make me think of "feeling groovy" which is the popular name for a song that triggers lots of memories for me.

Steve

Considering that NvLD is "silent" you would figure they "think in pictures" but as noted here previously, anyone can think in pictures it is simply more common in Austism and its descendants/linked disorders.

Anything can be co-morbid to anything it is just that one is more 'compatible' and liable to conjoin with another. Anyone with the sense and understanding of Autism would surely agree that NvLD is relatively co-morbid to HFA/AS considering many NvLD traits run along the same line as HFA/AS.

What does photographic really mean? NTs do think in images. I've asked them. They just are not as good as manipulating them.

What does that mean, NVLD is "silent"?

Look here for example? -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidetic_memory

And I agree, NTs do think in images, but as far as I can see autistics tend to think in images more than NTs. However, and maybe I'm totally wrong about that, I always thought that people with NVLD think in pictures even less than most NTs. I just got the idea from that it always says "lack of visual image" in connection with NVLD.

I mean, I consider myself for example generally to be a "in-words-thinker" rather than a "in-pictures-thinker" and always thought that's an NVLD trait, too. It's not like I don't think in pictures at all, but I'm more likely to think in words. I think in pictures too for example at least partly when I daydream or very much so when I listen to song lyrics.
On the other hand when I read a book for example the pictures don't come as automatically as with most other people or at least so it seems. Like, when I pause during reading and try to, I can picture the things, too, the longer I pause the better, but when I just read in normal speed then I'm more likely to only rarely get images, and those are mostly not very clear and detailed at all.

I'm actually more likely to imagine the action which is done rather than the person who does it or the surroundings, if that makes any sense
That's also why I need action and dialogues or description of thoughts and feelings in a book, if it's just (lengthy) descriptions of landscapes and such, I get nothing much out of that at all.

So long story cut short I think it can vary greatly from person to person how much they think in pictures, but generally I always thought NLD people naturally rather think in words than in pictures most of the time.

Well I'm completely unable to think in images at all. I only see things in my head in deep sleep. That's why I did the straw poll. It took me a while to realise that most people do. I will collate the data from that. It is not really fair for me to post exactly what they put, because it was done on another forum. I used open questions because I find closed questioners annoying though their easier to interpret.

I doubt very much that many people have the total blackout that I do. I really hope not anyway. I realise now how important imaging is to us. I'm looking into at the moment, but I hoping it is a cognitive dysfunction that can be corrected as well as the rest of it. It is really hard to explain how I think. But it not so great anyways.

There are some things words can’t describe. Believe me when I say NTs/every one needs to think in images especially to recall things. I can understand not believing this. Why would you know otherwise? You can only account for your own experience. Yes most NTs do not have photographic memory, but that is a rather dumb phrase anyway because everyone in the straw poll said the image the saw what photographic quality. What it was like was probably was like a postcard image i.e. flat representation of the 3D form. The exercise was to imagine a tree. Most of them recalled some sort of specific image of a tree. This is not an image that they can interact with very much.