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09 May 2007, 1:57 am

has anyone here been told they may have bpd. then after a long mysterious journey you figure out it is really aspergers? with some other traits. and not bpd. if so let us know. and if so how did you figure it out?



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09 May 2007, 2:11 am

Yes, I was diagnosed with BPD by a psychiatrist who spent less than an hour with me. I discussed the diagnosis with my father, who has a master's degree in psychology and works with troubled teens, and he said there was absolutely no way I had BPD. I have come across Asperger's Syndrome on three separate occasions in the last ten years and thought, each time, that it sounded a lot like me. The last time a heard about it, several months ago, I was intrigued and decided to research it further. I've read a great deal on the subject since then and I have very little doubt that I am on the autistic spectrum. My family agrees with my conclusion.



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09 May 2007, 3:09 am

There's another thread on this here! It seems it's not uncommon, especially if you're female, to be diagnosed BPD rather than AS. I'd say it's a mix of ignorance and laziness on the part of mental health 'professionals'. i had the diagnosis for 4 years. not any more.


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09 May 2007, 9:11 am

a lot of it is laziness. I was diagnosed with BPD (6 years ago), but was only in the hospital for 3 days. I assume that came about because when I went in I was a mess, and I was fine for 3 days that it was a sudden mood change, but it wasn't. I was just glad to be away from the abusive situation I was in. It was nice to be away from it, I was fine until I went back into the "land of chaos" known as my relationship, lol. I left shortly after, and don't seem to "fit" the criteria since I left him.

Until I found out about asperger's, I was taking my reactions and trying to force/mold them into BPD characteristics because I didn't know about other possibilities (if the profs said it, it must be true right?). My bf is still doing it, but only because I've been diagnosed with it.

I imagine anyone in an abusive relationship is going to react oddly to a lot of things because they never know what is going to happen. Of course you are going to feel empty, when you're being hurt by someone you care about you feel like you are nothing. Depression, well, duh, lol. So my diagnosis only came about while I was actually in the relationship and it's a bit obvious why just from those 3 things that they came to that conclusion.

Since I've been out of it, things are a lot clearer (the relationship I mean). I still tried to mold my behaviors to fitting it because I've been diagnosed, but have decided for me, that the BPD diagnosis was done very poorly and I have discounted it after analyzing the circumstances on which it was made.

When I was asked if I'd ever checked into Asperger's, it took me a week, but I finally did look it up, and a LOT of lights went on-huge "a-ha!" moments that just made more sense to me all around. I've also picked apart the BPD criteria and pinned it against myself to see if I think my conclusion is right, and in every criteria of BPD, something just isn't that way for me.



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09 May 2007, 9:51 am

nobodyzdream wrote:
a lot of it is laziness. I was diagnosed with BPD (6 years ago), but was only in the hospital for 3 days. I assume that came about because when I went in I was a mess, and I was fine for 3 days that it was a sudden mood change, but it wasn't. I was just glad to be away from the abusive situation I was in. It was nice to be away from it, I was fine until I went back into the "land of chaos" known as my relationship, lol. I left shortly after, and don't seem to "fit" the criteria since I left him.

Until I found out about asperger's, I was taking my reactions and trying to force/mold them into BPD characteristics because I didn't know about other possibilities (if the profs said it, it must be true right?). My bf is still doing it, but only because I've been diagnosed with it.

I imagine anyone in an abusive relationship is going to react oddly to a lot of things because they never know what is going to happen. Of course you are going to feel empty, when you're being hurt by someone you care about you feel like you are nothing. Depression, well, duh, lol. So my diagnosis only came about while I was actually in the relationship and it's a bit obvious why just from those 3 things that they came to that conclusion.

Since I've been out of it, things are a lot clearer (the relationship I mean). I still tried to mold my behaviors to fitting it because I've been diagnosed, but have decided for me, that the BPD diagnosis was done very poorly and I have discounted it after analyzing the circumstances on which it was made.

When I was asked if I'd ever checked into Asperger's, it took me a week, but I finally did look it up, and a LOT of lights went on-huge "a-ha!" moments that just made more sense to me all around. I've also picked apart the BPD criteria and pinned it against myself to see if I think my conclusion is right, and in every criteria of BPD, something just isn't that way for me.


I find this all extremely interesting. It's very familiar.


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09 May 2007, 11:00 am

lol, I feel so dumb :( I've been so obsessed with both of them that I tend to keep going to the differences, but ah well. Once I get something more concrete than a diagnosis based on a 3 day stay during a really bad time in my life, I'll be able to move past the label part and moreso onto understanding or working with it and whatnot.



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09 May 2007, 11:41 am

All the best, nobodyzdream!


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09 May 2007, 2:11 pm

I had a snap diagnosis of BPD when being treated for depression at one point. Quickly shot down by a more thorough psychiatrist. They both missed the AS, however, until I discovered it when doing my own research and brought it up as a possibility.

One thing I discovered about BPD is that it is in no way a specific syndrome, but a spectrum. It is quite possible, and probably even common, for those with AS, bipolar disorder or other conditions to exhibit some or most of the classical BPD symptoms at times. It seems to me that some of the most common AS traits, such as frustration with the behavior of others, can be misinterpreted as the extreme mood swings associated with BPD. However, the psychopharmacological literature suggests that seratonin regulation may well play a critical role in many such conditions, so they may well be closely related. Obviously we don't know for sure, but the bottom line is that one should be very cautious in "labeling" anyone with anything having as many negative aspersions associated with it as BPD.


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09 May 2007, 2:18 pm

madscientist wrote:
One thing I discovered about BPD is that it is in no way a specific syndrome, but a spectrum. It is quite possible, and probably even common, for those with AS, bipolar disorder or other conditions to exhibit some or most of the classical BPD symptoms at times. It seems to me that some of the most common AS traits, such as frustration with the behavior of others, can be misinterpreted as the extreme mood swings associated with BPD. However, the psychopharmacological literature suggests that seratonin regulation may well play a critical role in many such conditions, so they may well be closely related. Obviously we don't know for sure, but the bottom line is that one should be very cautious in "labeling" anyone with anything having as many negative aspersions associated with it as BPD.


Agreed. BPD is sever and untreated can be dangerous as much so as sever AsPD.
Its unfortunate the medical world ignores the damage Personality Disorders can cause, other than Depression because, lets face it almost everyone has or had a case of depression to some degree, there is not enough done for those with PD's.



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09 May 2007, 10:46 pm

Well, I got back, my psychologist (and the 6 people who overview the tapes of my appointments) all agreed I officially do NOT have BPD, and agree I need an AS test.

Bf finally dropped the "BPD moment" thing quickly as well, and is taking me a bit more seriously about what is going on with me and listening to what I'm telling him :)

What he said most likely happened with me is in the wards and such, since I was there such a short period of time, they collect a small idea of the symptoms, and just write down what they think it "might" be under diagnosis, which is what I figured probably happened :( He said it's a shame so many people get misdiagnosed like that just because they don't have the time with everyone to watch them for a while since there are people in and out all the time, especially with serious conditions.

I do however, still think I might have mild traits-nothing extreme, but I do have my moments where I'm unbearable to be around.



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09 May 2007, 11:20 pm

I truly think more research needs to be done into this area, considering the number of those later diagnosed with an ASD who have been formerly dx'd with Bpd.