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28 Sep 2016, 5:28 pm

When I talk to my mom, I usually bring up conversations on things that are either going on in our life or what I see in the news. It's usually about conflict and drama, and when I bring it up it's usually with some form of excitement. I bring it up to my mom because I think she will agree with me. But most of the time is upset that I bring things up, on what side I choose and why. Or it's just because it's something negative and she doesn't want to talk about it. Please ask for more details if needed. Is this normal? Is their something I can do to change how and why I bring these things up?


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28 Sep 2016, 5:37 pm

A couple generations ago, it was considered extremely rude to discuss conflict or drama. Even news media chose not to display every crime or personal problem as "headline news." I remember that time, and people were a lot calmer than they are today. It isn't that we were innocent to a fault. We knew what people were capable of doing to each other without having it played out in CCTV and dashcam reality. Since then, people have become desensitized to the parade of grotesque oddities that now pass as info-tainment. Welcome to the Colosseum.

So, I suspect that, for your mother, she wishes she could see life as it should be, not as it is. You might find topics you both enjoy to discuss, instead.


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28 Sep 2016, 5:44 pm

It's just that people get tired of conflict all the time.

People just want to have a good time.



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28 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm

Thanks. All I can do then is keep these to myself and discuss things that aren't negative with my mother. At least things like news or events that aren't important to our life.


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28 Sep 2016, 5:57 pm

It's too bad you can't have an amiable discussion about political issues, and things which go beyond the superficial.

I wish we didn't have to avoid conflict all the time. I wish we could talk about things in an even-handed manner.



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28 Sep 2016, 6:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
...I wish we didn't have to avoid conflict all the time. I wish we could talk about things in an even-handed manner.

True. But, Americans have been trained to see politics, violence and criminality as sports teams. We cheer them on now. We record the freeway chases and helicopter videos.


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28 Sep 2016, 6:03 pm

I also tend to disagree with her views on things, and her views on things are right most of the time, at least morally. So she doesn't like to discuss things of conflict or drama, unless it's a fictional show we are watching, because I will argue with her, because I disagree or refuse to she her views. Some times the conversations go well but most don't.


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28 Sep 2016, 6:08 pm

Do you have friends whom you can talk about political/philosophical issues?

You can discuss your views here on WP---but there's no guarantee that people will be amiable. You have to take the good and the bad in life.



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28 Sep 2016, 6:25 pm

I used to have friends who I can talk about but not anymore. I do talk to people online, like YouTube, but it's generally about everything. I'm no stranger to discusses on the Internet, been involved in more then I could count. Which is probably the reason I discuss things in a similar to my mother, which doesn't end well :skull: . But some discusses on the Internet are resolved peacefully when we figure out we had a misunderstanding or we come to understand one another views.


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28 Sep 2016, 6:29 pm

You know what? I'm 55, and I still have trouble discussing substantive things with her.

At least some of the discussions you engage in end peacefully. I'm glad you have the motivation.

Have you ever read Thomas More's "Utopia?" Within the first ten pages or so, there's a discussion which I wish all people would be able to have.



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28 Sep 2016, 6:41 pm

I have read that book. But that was probably 7 years ago. Good book.


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