What do you think of when you hear the word disorder

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JimmyNeurtonRules
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07 May 2007, 6:21 am

I think "ret*d"



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07 May 2007, 6:26 am

I get very, very interested. I'm really into the various "disorders", but in response to what you're probably asking, I don't attach any specific connotation to the term, positive or negative. I just think "interesting".



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07 May 2007, 6:43 am

a lack of order. when used in a medical sense, not operating as would be expected.
That can also be used in the social side, with drunk and disorderly, where the person is not behaving in the way expected of them.



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07 May 2007, 6:46 am

HEY, GIANTISM is a disorder! The only symptom is UNretarded growth!

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07 May 2007, 6:56 am

DingoDv wrote:
a lack of order. when used in a medical sense, not operating as would be expected.
That can also be used in the social side, with drunk and disorderly, where the person is not behaving in the way expected of them.


Same.



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07 May 2007, 7:12 am

agentcyclosarin wrote:
DingoDv wrote:
a lack of order. when used in a medical sense, not operating as would be expected.
That can also be used in the social side, with drunk and disorderly, where the person is not behaving in the way expected of them.


Same.


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07 May 2007, 7:16 am

It has no real negative connotation with me but I try to avoid spelling it out in connection with autism as not to upset members here. People get very sensitive over the semantics of words when the larger meaning is more important. Which at the very least disorder means difference.



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07 May 2007, 7:18 am

It is like saying the person was of the normal/NT group to begin with,and then happened to be changed to not normal,as the person is born Autistic,it is normal to that person,so it is not disorded.



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07 May 2007, 7:43 am

I think that at least the words disease, or handicap weren't used.



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07 May 2007, 7:53 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I think that at least the words disease, or handicap weren't used.


My buddy referenced AS as a disease. I was offended and quickly corrected him with disorder. I certainly don't see 'disorder' as being ret*d. Not at all.


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07 May 2007, 8:04 am

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07 May 2007, 8:07 am

"Me." I’m…I was disordered and disturbed compared to my peers; if I’ve ever had any.

"Objectively", all the professionals see autism spectrum stuff as social retardation, i.e, you're held back socially compared to the "majority" of the population; I’m socially ret*d because I didn’t…don’t speak to anyone other than a professional, and then it’s only words that are pertinent to the subject in our hand, and only in a voice that isn’t mine. I know my voice, and that one isn’t it. Yeah…if I cannot; you cannot interact with the majority how they’d like you to then you are indeed ret*d in their eyes. Remember, these are the very people who gave you the label that you’ve accepted….

If you don't think you're "ret*d", drop the label and live how everyone else wants you to live with the seamless ease that they do.



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07 May 2007, 8:23 am

I get interested as well, I want to find out about it and all. But I always think "how do I have a disorder? I've always been this way, things seem pretty ordered with how I do them, it's just not the 'norm'".



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07 May 2007, 8:56 am

Mental retardation or mental illness
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07 May 2007, 9:02 am

Danielismyname wrote:
"Me." I’m…I was disordered and disturbed compared to my peers; if I’ve ever had any.

"Objectively", all the professionals see autism spectrum stuff as social retardation, i.e, you're held back socially compared to the "majority" of the population; I’m socially ret*d because I didn’t…don’t speak to anyone other than a professional, and then it’s only words that are pertinent to the subject in our hand, and only in a voice that isn’t mine. I know my voice, and that one isn’t it. Yeah…if I cannot; you cannot interact with the majority how they’d like you to then you are indeed ret*d in their eyes. Remember, these are the very people who gave you the label that you’ve accepted….

If you don't think you're "ret*d", drop the label and live how everyone else wants you to live with the seamless ease that they do.


I went to the source, dictionary.com.

In the general term, yes, we are ret*d such as held back or hindered and other similar definitions. However, if say somebody is ret*d, those are not the definitions that people think about. Some of the definitions that stuck out is that of having an IQ of less then 70. Not the case for anyone here, in fact most of us are the opposite of ret*d. Very high IQ's. Another term used was awareness. We are viciously aware of our state. The mentally ret*d (supposedly) are not or cannot understand what makes them different. We understand all to well what's going on. Granted there are social problems but those can be overcome if you're put in a position to overcome them.

No, AS is not equal to ret*d IMHO.


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07 May 2007, 9:22 am

I was never aware that my mind state and how I acted was any different to my peers; when I never spoke, when I never understood their derision, when I could never learn anything due to the social environment that mainstream schooling is; until a month or two ago…I “awoke” to some extent. I’m still deciding if it was better to wake up or not.

I assumed that I was different, yes…but not to the extent I now see I was; I mean, I didn’t speak and interact how everyone else did; I bounced a ball around and threw it in hoops like everyone else, the same as everyone else; my motor skills are normal…. Words don’t make a good basketball player. I couldn't understand why I was different until I read some words that were written by psychics and psychos after I started deducing stuff my psychic was telling and asking me....

How would you happen to know that I've never had an IQ of =<70, or over >150; I've had both.

Yes, generally...objectively we are socially ret*d: the extent of which equates to how well you can function in modern society.