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20 Nov 2007, 2:59 pm

Look what they did to us!

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magaz ... ium-t.html


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20 Nov 2007, 3:15 pm

Noooo bad sesame street. BAD sesame street. You warped our fragile minds.

Actually, I was really not into Sesame street. Found it really boring. It did wonders for others in the household who wanted me to go to sleep though. See, Sesame Street can't be all that bad.


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20 Nov 2007, 3:19 pm

Yes the lack of political correctness in our early education surely left us ill-prepared to face modern groupthink.



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20 Nov 2007, 3:19 pm

My son thought it was boring when he was little. My how times have changed.



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20 Nov 2007, 3:26 pm

I always knew Big Bird had warped my mind...and now there's proof! :P


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20 Nov 2007, 3:41 pm

Plutonian_Persona wrote:
I always knew Big Bird had warped my mind...and now there's proof! :P


:D

BTW - your avatar is kinda cool - I thought it moved a little - like sometimes you see in scary movies - the eyes...........


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20 Nov 2007, 4:02 pm

jjstar wrote:
Plutonian_Persona wrote:
I always knew Big Bird had warped my mind...and now there's proof! :P


:D

BTW - your avatar is kinda cool - I thought it moved a little - like sometimes you see in scary movies - the eyes...........


Now that you mention it does seem like Napoleon III's eyes do move a little! :)


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20 Nov 2007, 4:20 pm

Kitsy wrote:
Noooo bad sesame street. BAD sesame street. You warped our fragile minds.

Actually, I was really not into Sesame street. Found it really boring. It did wonders for others in the household who wanted me to go to sleep though. See, Sesame Street can't be all that bad.


Eh. I watched the Muppet Show. Sesame Street with an edge.

I liked the Swedish Chef - and

and these 2 - Image


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20 Nov 2007, 4:25 pm

Monsterpiece theater was my favorite. Cookie monster with a pipe didnt necessarily make me think he was smoking it. I thought it was funny when he ate the pipe.
Cookie never really induced me into a cookie binge, nor was he the reason for obesity. I just accepted that cookie monster might have a special monster digestive system that works best on cookies. Just like cows eat grass, or carnivores eat meat.
I liked watching it, because there were lessons on consequence for actions, tours of factories to see how crayons are made, and pointing without judgement, the one of those things that werent like the other. I think they are really dumbing it down and making pu--ies of young children. what happens when these oversheltered protected kids go out in the real world? The older version of sesame street had more of a view of humanity. Oscar was a grouch, and it was ok. That's just how grouches are.



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20 Nov 2007, 4:47 pm

Shows from the 80's are notoriously bad for children to watch, not just sesame street, but other programs designed for young viewers as well. A lot of the things they showed just weren't recognised as wrong for children to see back then. Let's face it, this generation is far more shielded then the last.



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20 Nov 2007, 5:01 pm

I grew up on Tom & Jerry:

Ultra violent
Cats smoking cigars
Red meat being eaten without a health warning
Too many racial and sexual stereotypes to mention
Under age drinking (I'm sure Tom was under 21)

Yet for some reason I appear to have turned out OK.

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20 Nov 2007, 5:42 pm

dawndeleon wrote:
Monsterpiece theater was my favorite. Cookie monster with a pipe didnt necessarily make me think he was smoking it. I thought it was funny when he ate the pipe.
Cookie never really induced me into a cookie binge, nor was he the reason for obesity. I just accepted that cookie monster might have a special monster digestive system that works best on cookies. Just like cows eat grass, or carnivores eat meat.
I liked watching it, because there were lessons on consequence for actions, tours of factories to see how crayons are made, and pointing without judgement, the one of those things that werent like the other. I think they are really dumbing it down and making pu--ies of young children. what happens when these oversheltered protected kids go out in the real world? The older version of sesame street had more of a view of humanity. Oscar was a grouch, and it was ok. That's just how grouches are.


It's a different world. Even something as asking someone to help a kid cross the street can be misconstrued. Things that would never have registered 20 years ago, benign interactions are now considered to be off-limits and might even get someone tasered in the process. I see a lot of people in protection mode - for themselves and their families - some of it is warranted too. I just think that along with the treading carefully in this world there needs to be some kind of simultaneous pull towards inner safety. Being safe for a kid needs to start from the inside and work its way out. When they start teaching that on TV - that'll be something, eh?


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20 Nov 2007, 11:03 pm

Oscar was my favorite Sesame St character as a kid. I loved his grouchiness.
Now I watch it with my kid, and I have noticed poor Oscar has lost a lot of his edge. He's just kind of dirty and mildly gross now, and they call that grouchy. He doesn't even tell people to "scram" or "beat it" anymore!



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21 Nov 2007, 1:26 am

I loved the Monsterpiece Theater bit, and thought it was funny when Cookie Monster ate his pipe at the end. I loved that Oscar the Grouch was really grouchy, and told people to "scram" or "beat it." In addition to Sesame Street, I also loved The Muppet Show.


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21 Nov 2007, 1:36 am

I blame it all on the Care Bears. That's when children's entertainment became bland and unimaginative. :cry:



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21 Nov 2007, 3:12 am

I dunno... My son watches Sesame Street. And he's somewhere in LFA/MFA land, cannot really understand most of it; but he loves it just the same.

And sometimes, as I watch it... I can't help but wonder.... How hard would it be to kill Snuffleupagus using a good, sharp Claymore? Or possibly a good boar spear? 8O Is that wrong of me to think about? Do I need help? Is this better or worse than wanting to hunt Ewoks with a baseball bat? I really don't know anymore...

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