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06 Dec 2016, 6:16 am

The cause of my depression comes from lack of social acceptance, social exclusion and lack of connection with friends due to rejections and excuses. This is very common cause of depression in Autistic people. it not our fault to become sad all the time.



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06 Dec 2016, 9:50 am

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The cause of my depression comes from lack of social acceptance, social exclusion and lack of connection with friends due to rejections and excuses. This is very common cause of depression in Autistic people. it not our fault to become sad all the time.



I came to a point where I found internal peace and self acceptance. If others think I dress "stupid," That's fine, I do not control what others think. If they don't like the way I act, ok that again its fine with me. I'm not out hurting anyone.



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06 Dec 2016, 9:57 am

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Ecomatt91 wrote:
The cause of my depression comes from lack of social acceptance, social exclusion and lack of connection with friends due to rejections and excuses. This is very common cause of depression in Autistic people. it not our fault to become sad all the time.



I came to a point where I found internal peace and self acceptance. If others think I dress "stupid," That's fine, I do not control what others think. If they don't like the way I act, ok that again its fine with me. I'm not out hurting anyone.


I agree that this is the place that people need to strive to find if they are struggling with autism-related depression. If you can embrace what is natural to you and use your unique coping strategies and recovery routines that, in my opinion, is the best way to arm yourself against anything else that Life sends your way. As to the lack of social acceptance...sometimes it takes awhile to find the right kind of people.



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06 Dec 2016, 5:50 pm

I hate this thread... :cry:


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06 Dec 2016, 6:09 pm

SocOfAutism wrote:
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Ecomatt91 wrote:
The cause of my depression comes from lack of social acceptance, social exclusion and lack of connection with friends due to rejections and excuses. This is very common cause of depression in Autistic people. it not our fault to become sad all the time.



I came to a point where I found internal peace and self acceptance. If others think I dress "stupid," That's fine, I do not control what others think. If they don't like the way I act, ok that again its fine with me. I'm not out hurting anyone.


I agree that this is the place that people need to strive to find if they are struggling with autism-related depression. If you can embrace what is natural to you and use your unique coping strategies and recovery routines that, in my opinion, is the best way to arm yourself against anything else that Life sends your way. As to the lack of social acceptance...sometimes it takes awhile to find the right kind of people.


I agreed, but you have to understand that many ways to alleviate mental health problem is a feeling acceptance and have connection with people too. It not always about connecting and loving yourself. That is way too much. I get anxiety from being lonely all the time as well being with people a lot. You need to balance between acceptance of yourself and others accept yourself. The strings of rejections, bullying, bigotry attitudes and rude attitudes is causing that person to experience depression.

People not accepting Autistic people in a long time, it will cause anxiety and depression for that autistic person. Taking medications, lots of psychologist appointments and that does not solve this problem since you already have done your half. That is accepting yourself. For instance I accept by the way who I am, as being autistic and have hearing loss. Now got a job, two academic degrees with high GPA, going traveling and that etc etc. That is accepting myself. I am talking about other half of acceptance which that is missing.



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06 Dec 2016, 8:02 pm

Crappy life causes depression, not autism itself. Unless it's a chemical one, but one doesn't have to be autistic to have one.
Certain persistent conditioning and of trying not to fail and disappoint causes anxiety, not autism itself. :lol: Unless you are born a worrywart, but then that doesn't justify autism for anxiety.

Therefore, that's just the same old social wanting. :roll: With wants unfulfilled, just because the autistic is surrounded by the wrong people. :lol: While I respect your desire, sorry but said desire and justifications are making me laugh...


You want people accept autism, or just YOU in a way? Be a hacker of culture or capture a sphere of influence. That would take more than the NT neurology, 'charm', and 'voice'.

OR, accept the fact that the NTs around you follows a less tolerant or less inclusive culture. And hope that one day you'll either find a more open minded individual in your life, or wait to change for or stumble across a more inclusive culture, and maybe even have them spread their way of inclusion or tolerance if you have the means and the will to do it.


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06 Dec 2016, 11:54 pm

Sometimes it's the crappy way that our parents deal with us, especially when we're small. They also have a hard time cutting the apron strings and they're still trying to parent us when we're in our 40s. I was having flashbacks for a while last year, because of the way my mum was about the way that I am now. I've told the story about the helmet and the flag many times. I know that January is around the corner. I know that memories are going to be in the back of my mind. I doubt the my mum is going to redeem herself this Christmas by giving me a gift to do with any of my current interests. I also don't hold my breath waiting for an apology, anymore. I have faith that things will be a lot better next year and I'll have to keep those memories at bay.


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06 Dec 2016, 11:58 pm

It could also be the autistic brain has trouble with seretonin. It tends to get stuck in the blood due to low vitamin d levels, get your health checked.


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07 Dec 2016, 2:55 am

Low in vitamin D? Our milks contains them and I get outside everyday with good dose of Aussie sunlight!



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07 Dec 2016, 6:16 am

neurotypicalET wrote:
I hate this thread... :cry:
@OP sorry about my earlier post its not the thread that I actually hate rather its effect on me....got teary eyed earlier which was scary because I start digging within myself why I am depressed...just got scared when tears started forming round my eyes... :lol: I should stop reading post while working....I was scared I was gonna cry in front of customers and my co workers...have to run to my room to compose myself...*note to self : avoid any post with depression on it*
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07 Dec 2016, 12:57 pm

I have no problem with strangers on the street not accepting me. They didn't give birth to me. I don't care if they don't like the way I present myself. If they don't like what they see, they don't have to look at me. People get jealous of those who aren't afraid to be themselves because they're jealous because they're afraid to be themselves.


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07 Dec 2016, 5:03 pm

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I have no problem with strangers on the street not accepting me. They didn't give birth to me. I don't care if they don't like the way I present myself. If they don't like what they see, they don't have to look at me. People get jealous of those who aren't afraid to be themselves because they're jealous because they're afraid to be themselves.


Could be true that lot of NTs have self esteem issues like peer pressure especially in their 20s when finding themselves out which causing a lot of problems in anxiety and depression. Aspies are quite different, but still have peer pressure like everybody does but goes in different way. My depression comes from lack of acceptance and social isolation.



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07 Dec 2016, 5:26 pm

I think I was depressed because I didn't accept myself, I had high expectations of other people because I thought I could get them to accept me and like me and I was trying to be normal and struggling to fit in and I was being picked on so all that made me depressed. Plus I always felt bad about myself.

Now I don't care about normality anymore and I don't try to get accepted or try to fit in and I don't get harassed anymore or get any bad treatment from people. I am not pressured to be normal or else I will face the consequence of not trying to be like everyone else, the joy of childhood. When you're an adult, no one cares what you watch on TV or what you wear or what you do for fun or how you spend your time or how you talk or how you walk or stand, etc. because they leave you alone about it and not give you a hard time and making a big deal about it.


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07 Dec 2016, 6:26 pm

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I think I was depressed because I didn't accept myself, I had high expectations of other people because I thought I could get them to accept me and like me and I was trying to be normal and struggling to fit in and I was being picked on so all that made me depressed. Plus I always felt bad about myself.

Now I don't care about normality anymore and I don't try to get accepted or try to fit in and I don't get harassed anymore or get any bad treatment from people. I am not pressured to be normal or else I will face the consequence of not trying to be like everyone else, the joy of childhood. When you're an adult, no one cares what you watch on TV or what you wear or what you do for fun or how you spend your time or how you talk or how you walk or stand, etc. because they leave you alone about it and not give you a hard time and making a big deal about it.


Thanks for sharing League Girl. I think I am a same too. But I have qualities and things that make me successful. I have done tow uni degrees, a perfect grade thesis paper. Went on two international field trips for a research paper. I traveled across 3 continents. I had two scholarships in my life. I have a family that loves me. I have friends that cares about me, but they are busy. I believe my depression comes from not being accepted, hence me blaming Autism that make them judgmental about it. I tried to advocate it by explaining what Autism is and what help to improve communication between myself and them.

To be honest I think biggest problem is people not listening to understand, they just listen and don't take action. I think education about self confidence, mental health and diversity is slack and lacking in 21st century because people continually ignoring the differences, and why they are. Of course we have growing advocacy network, but again the process is too slow. Marriage equality seems well ahead than disabilities and mental health acceptance and support. I find this obvious because LBGIT people are also disabled and mentally disabled too. We have to change our priorities to understand communication and social skills before taking big steps and processes. That will help people to understand, thus listen to understand.

How you find social life? I find it challenging, especially when events become cancelled, creating chaos on your diary because there are no other options to do things when you are being socially isolated.



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07 Dec 2016, 9:34 pm

Ecomatt91 wrote:
Low in vitamin D? Our milks contains them and I get outside everyday with good dose of Aussie sunlight!


You need to sit in sunlight for an hour without a shirt or pants, then not shower for one and a half hours.
Do that every day for three months and your vitamin d levels may go up to near normal.
Or take 5-10,000 IUs a day for three months and you may see nearly as much change.
That is like 200 glasses of milk.


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08 Dec 2016, 3:07 am

mine i think has a biological basis too, as well as my life having been a hellish ride and being the worst it's been these past few years.
i'm just totally pessimistic and fatalistic, hence the name.
i've always thought about death and ageing since i was a kid too, and also the nature of reality and the human condition, which only leads to more misery.