Page 1 of 2 [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Do you have an advanced vocabulary that has been misinterpreted?
Yes 80%  80%  [ 43 ]
No 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Not sure 13%  13%  [ 7 ]
Total votes : 54

Social_Fantom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,907
Location: Trapped outside of the space time continuum

28 Feb 2008, 11:43 am

I recently had a misunderstanding with someone who mistook something I had said for a personal attack. I meant no harm, but I'm afraid that my advanced vocabulary and way of speaking may have been to blame. I have faced this problem many times in the past and each time has made me more afraid of speaking in my normal way. I am paranoid that I may inadvertently offend someone. I understand that this is yet another symptom of Asperger's Syndrome.

I want to know if anyone else has had a similar experience.


_________________
So simple, it's complicated


woodsman25
Supporting Member
Supporting Member

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,064
Location: NY

28 Feb 2008, 11:50 am

As a kid absolutly. Nowdays I have learned my lesson and keep the more advanced vocab out of the workplace where the average IQ is less then 80 no doubt where I work.

I have friends who are intelligent and dont get offended so I am more open around them then at work.


_________________
DX'ed with HFA as a child. However this was in 1987 and I am certain had I been DX'ed a few years later I would have been DX'ed with AS instead.


Sora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,906
Location: Europe

28 Feb 2008, 12:03 pm

I'm not sure, I tend to that I have a rather basic vocabulary in both my languages though.

When I hear the people at my current school talking, I know I can't talk as well and highly. My autism therapist has said the opposite, she said that my vocabulary is that is rather advanced. Wish she would just talk to the students of my school, she'd be proven otherwise. Well, my vocabulary is better than that of my family, but not nearly as good as that of my friends who all went to grammar school since fifth grade. My classmates throughout seventh to tenth grade knew less vocabulary than me, asking me for the meaning of such words as 'mutated' knowing that I'd know. Seriously, I felt more comfortable talking to them than to my current classmates though, as possibly thick as some people claim they were.



anbuend
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Jul 2004
Age: 44
Gender: Female
Posts: 5,039

28 Feb 2008, 12:24 pm

I have an advanced expressive vocabulary and a way less advanced receptive vocabulary, which leads into all sorts of misunderstandings all the time. (In the most extreme form of this, I initially learned expressive language before I understood language at all, which in itself is the reverse of usual and confused people.)


_________________
"In my world it's a place of patterns and feel. In my world it's a haven for what is real. It's my world, nobody can steal it, but people like me, we live in the shadows." -Donna Williams


jawbrodt
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,766
Location: Eastern USA

28 Feb 2008, 12:43 pm

woodsman25 wrote:
As a kid absolutly. Nowdays I have learned my lesson and keep the more advanced vocab out of the workplace where the average IQ is less then 80 no doubt where I work.

I have friends who are intelligent and dont get offended so I am more open around them then at work.


I do the same. I got so used to censoring myself that, now it comes naturally. I don't mind appearing average, to others. I know where I stand, intellectually, and I have nothing to prove to anyone else. :)


_________________
Those who speak, don't know.

Those who know, don't speak.


skeeterhawk
Raven
Raven

User avatar

Joined: 8 Feb 2008
Age: 77
Gender: Male
Posts: 102
Location: Southeast

28 Feb 2008, 12:50 pm

Quote:
anbuend said

I have an advanced expressive vocabulary and a way less advanced receptive vocabulary, which leads into all sorts of misunderstandings all the time. (In the most extreme form of this, I initially learned expressive language before I understood language at all, which in itself is the reverse of usual and confused people.)


Anbuend,

Could you give some more detail about these different vocabularies? I have never heard of this classification but it seems like it could explain a lot of my own language quirks and the confusing confusion that I see on other peoples faces. (I mean that I am confused by their confusion which I did not expect).



Sora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,906
Location: Europe

28 Feb 2008, 1:05 pm

While I'm not anbuend, skeeterhawk, I hope you don't mind me explaining the basics just as well. I'll leave all the details to her, I don't know a thing beyond the following two things:

Expressive vocabulary is that which you actively use yourself in forms of communication, mainly speech and writing.
Receptive vocabulary is used to describe all the vocabulary which is used by others and that you can understand by hearing. I believe writing's included here?



DocStrange
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 940
Location: Florida

28 Feb 2008, 2:14 pm

Sometimes people confuse me taking politely and intelligently as being snarky. Kinda like in "Idiocracy". A few people believe that I talk like that to make me feel superior to them because I don't accent every word with an expletive. And my heavy use of sarcasm.

However, like most Rhode Islanders, I drop the "R" off of words where it ends, and replace it with an "A" (like "car" = "cah") and put it where it doesn't belong, usually where a word ends in "A" ("soda" = "soder"). So it doesn't sound too condesending to people that are familiar with me


_________________
here be dragons


Icarus_Falling
everyman antihero
everyman antihero

User avatar

Joined: 11 Jul 2007
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,215
Location: beyond human comprehension

28 Feb 2008, 4:27 pm

For some reason I find the notion of having an "advanced" vocabulary amusing. I will now go about considering the alternative "basic" vocabulary used by "normal" people. :wink:

I don't know about "advanced", but my vocabulary is most definitely larger than average in my experience; I am both hyperverbose and inclined to favour longer words and complex grammatical constructs. I’m particularly fond of archaic words and constructs. I also do not hesitate to make words up whenever I need them, and actually enjoy doing so. The "why" behind this is a mystery to me; I do not do so through any conscious effort to be a certain way; I speak and write the way I speak and write.

I'm not sure that any specific usage of vocabulary has been misinterpreted as being aimed at offending, but I have been victim of the more general problem mistaking me for being pretentious and/or condescending when neither effect was intended. This has been a consistent enough problem that I blurb about it on my MySpace page:

Icarus's MySpace page wrote:
I am not pretentious; I simply love words and language, and derive great pleasure from using them in colourful and unconventional ways. The manner in which I write and speak is a very direct reflection of how I think – nothing more.

Happily, most everyone I associate with has both gotten used to this aspect of me, and is able to keep up. Some of my friends are even amused (in a friendly way) by my hyperverbose predilection, and joke with me about it.

Ironically, I'm a horrific speller.

Good fortune,

- Icarus enjoys thesarizing...


_________________
Please forgive me if, in the heat of battle, I sometimes forget which side I'm on.


GoatOnFire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,986
Location: Den of the ecdysiasts

28 Feb 2008, 4:32 pm

Sorry guys, my vocabulary is too advanced for my brain to compute any of your primitive messages. :wink:


_________________
I will befriend the friendless, help the helpless, and defeat... the feetless?


2ukenkerl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,248

28 Feb 2008, 4:48 pm

Sora wrote:
While I'm not anbuend, skeeterhawk, I hope you don't mind me explaining the basics just as well. I'll leave all the details to her, I don't know a thing beyond the following two things:

Expressive vocabulary is that which you actively use yourself in forms of communication, mainly speech and writing.
Receptive vocabulary is used to describe all the vocabulary which is used by others and that you can understand by hearing. I believe writing's included here?


I thought that was what anubend meant also, but most people that have a difference are like I am. I understand a lot more than I am likely to use.

A good part of the disparity is because about 75% of my english vocabulary wouldn't be understood by the average person on the street, let alone the average immigrant.



SilverProteus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,915
Location: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

28 Feb 2008, 5:06 pm

I think mine is sometimes more vague than advanced, which is why people don't really understad close to exactly what I want to say.


_________________
"Lightning is but a flicker of light, punctuated on all sides by darkness." - Loki


Mudboy
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 May 2007
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,441
Location: Hiding in plain sight

28 Feb 2008, 5:45 pm

I am constantly being asked "What?". I have gotten used to being a thesaurus after years of talking to people. If I am talking to a group and I see a confused look, I know I did it again. I say "this means that" and see the faces relax. Then, I continue talking.


_________________
When I lose an obsession, I feel lost until I find another.
Aspie score: 155 of 200
NT score: 49 of 200


Glencannon
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 138
Location: Missoula, MT

28 Feb 2008, 6:02 pm

I'd say Icarus's post sums up myself pretty closely, though he may have a bigger vocabulary than I do. I also am a horrible speller and I'm pretty sure that I would live in endless frustration if I didn't have spell check.



As an example of a miscommunication, I used to use the word loathe a lot when I was younger. I stopped using it because I got sick of having conversations like this.

Them: What kind of food do you like?

Me: I don't really have a favorite, I enjoy different foods for different reasons, but I loathe seafood.

Them: Oh I love seafood too. Have you had King Crab?

Me: No no, I said I loathe sea food, not love.

Them: Huh? What does Loathe mean?

Me: It means having extreme hatred for.

Them: oh. . . well see ya later.



2ukenkerl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,248

28 Feb 2008, 6:09 pm

Glencannon wrote:
I'd say Icarus's post sums up myself pretty closely, though he may have a bigger vocabulary than I do. I also am a horrible speller and I'm pretty sure that I would live in endless frustration if I didn't have spell check.



As an example of a miscommunication, I used to use the word loathe a lot when I was younger. I stopped using it because I got sick of having conversations like this.

Them: What kind of food do you like?

Me: I don't really have a favorite, I enjoy different foods for different reasons, but I loathe seafood.

Them: Oh I love seafood too. Have you had King Crab?

Me: No no, I said I loathe sea food, not love.

Them: Huh? What does Loathe mean?

Me: It means having extreme hatred for.

Them: oh. . . well see ya later.


They didn't understand "loathe"??? Were they American? Sometimes I am amazed what words some don't know.



Glencannon
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 138
Location: Missoula, MT

28 Feb 2008, 6:26 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:

They didn't understand "loathe"??? Were they American? Sometimes I am amazed what words some don't know.


Well at the time I as using it I was a in my late teens and my peers at that age aren't renowned for their literary prowess and yes they were American. I find a lot of time I'm shocked when I find out what words people don't know s well.