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What is your opinion?
All aspies are genius and all genius are aspies 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
All aspies are genius but not all genius are aspies 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Not all aspies are genius but all genius are aspies 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Not all aspies are genius and not all genius are aspies 88%  88%  [ 29 ]
I am not sure 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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20 Feb 2017, 8:15 am

I read that scientists and artists who have IQ above averadge and discovered new things have asperger. Personally I have IQ above averadge(140-150) I also meets other genius. My math teacher in high school has IQ about 140 and his son has IQ about 160 I don't know if they have asperger but they aren't very social they are aloof. All genius have asperger or there are exist genius who is neurotypical? Do you know a famous scientist with IQ above average who are neurotypical? I just wonder



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20 Feb 2017, 10:21 am

I mean I don't know if you are just speculating but most I would guess are probably not diagnosed as being on the spectrum. Not everybody that is a 'genius' have the social difficulties we've had plus intelligence/genius is all subjective too in meaning.



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20 Feb 2017, 10:26 am

Jacoby wrote:
I mean I don't know if you are just speculating but most I would guess are probably not diagnosed as being on the spectrum. Not everybody that is a 'genius' have the social difficulties we've had plus intelligence/genius is all subjective too in meaning.


I don't know a famous genius who don't have asperger or social difficulties can you name a famus genius who is neurotypical?



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20 Feb 2017, 10:36 am

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20 Feb 2017, 12:33 pm

Yes, I have personally met Kary Mullis, a Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry 1993. He won it for developing the PCR method of replicating DNA. He seems to be NT (very social) from my perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis



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20 Feb 2017, 12:55 pm

I don't see why not. I've met some smart NTs in my life.


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20 Feb 2017, 1:14 pm

I would say to be a genius you probably have a number of autistic traits but that is as far as it goes.

To get your papers published and be recognized having social skills helps. Overly narrow interests/hyperfocus/routine can make you see things others do not, but it can make one miss things one needs to "think out of the box"

If NT's are 95+ percent of the population the basic law of averages would suggest there are genius NT's.

Again being Autistic involves more than being socially awkward, quirky, and different, a lot more.

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20 Feb 2017, 3:06 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I would say to be a genius you probably have a number of autistic traits but that is as far as it goes.

To get your papers published and be recognized having social skills helps. Overly narrow interests/hyperfocus/routine can make you see things others do not, but it can make one miss things one needs to "think out of the box"

If NT's are 95+ percent of the population the basic law of averages would suggest there are genius NT's.

Again being Autistic involves more than being socially awkward, quirky, and different, a lot more.

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I don't want to offent someone but I just wander if NT genius (IQ above 130) exists



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20 Feb 2017, 3:12 pm

If you qualify as a genius, aren't you neuro-atypical by definition? Not necessarily aspie, but certainly outside what one would consider "typical".


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20 Feb 2017, 3:18 pm

Wolfram87 wrote:
If you qualify as a genius, aren't you neuro-atypical by definition? Not necessarily aspie, but certainly outside what one would consider "typical".


I don't understand it



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20 Feb 2017, 3:29 pm

If typical is understood to mean "at or near the average" and atypical to mean "significantly removed from the average in either direction", then a brain of genius-level IQ (130 and up) would have to be considered atypical by definition.


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20 Feb 2017, 3:49 pm

Geniuses and individuals with mysterious and well above average to prodigious cognitive and intellectual ability tend to have an innately abnormal sensory processing network; so I would imply that they are neuroatypical on par with neuro-cognitive differences like ASD, Asperger syndrome, Dyslexia, Synaesthesia, Hyperlexia, Savantism, Hyperthymesia, Allesthesia, Mnemonism etc (even while the majority of them may not qualify to be diagnosed with as such).

It may explicate the multifarious forms of awkwardness, introversion, eccentricity, quirkiness, nerdity and pedantry within their underlying self-personalities, which are traits that I have conspicuously exhibited throughout my life that are stereotypically conventional to the Asperger neurotype. Neurotypicals are not morally nor spiritually inferior to the broad neuroatypical continuum, and to suggest by elucidating as such would likely be construed as neuro-elitism (neurodivergent supremacy).


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20 Feb 2017, 4:00 pm

Depends on how you define "genius."



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20 Feb 2017, 4:33 pm

starkid wrote:
Depends on how you define "genius."


I define genius a person who has IQ 130 and above



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20 Feb 2017, 4:44 pm

Some people consider genius to be its own category in neurodiversity. So some say that a genius, while not aspergers/autistic, is not NT. Just like how some consider ADHD to be non-NT but not aspergers/autistic either.

But yes, a person without a problem can be a genius too


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20 Feb 2017, 4:45 pm

NoName93 wrote:
starkid wrote:
Depends on how you define "genius."


I define genius a person who has IQ 130 and above


Ok. Also depends on what you mean by "neurotypical."