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11 Apr 2017, 4:16 pm

Is Asperger's no longer a diagnosis, it's just called high functioning autism, now?

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11 Apr 2017, 4:35 pm

According to DSM 5, it is just HFA now. If a person was diagnosed before dsm 5 with Asperger's, they are still free to use the term Asperger. But from now on, people will only get an autism diagnosis.

According to ICD 10, Asperger's is still a diagnosis that is seperate from autism.

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11 Apr 2017, 4:50 pm

Yes, in the US you are HFA and in the rest of the world you have Aspergers.

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11 Apr 2017, 6:46 pm

Technically, high functioning autism isn't an official diagnostic term. The official term is Level 1 autism.

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11 Apr 2017, 8:58 pm

TheAP wrote:

Technically, high functioning autism isn't an official diagnostic term. The official term is Level 1 autism.

My therapist finally gave me a written diagnosis. She always uses the term Aspergers, but officially Level 1 Autism on paper.

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11 Apr 2017, 9:30 pm

I don't understand DSM 5 & ICD 10? I read it on Facebook.

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11 Apr 2017, 11:59 pm

Kitty4670 wrote:

I don't understand DSM 5 & ICD 10? I read it on Facebook.

They're the two diagnostic manuals used to diagnose. The DSM 5 is what's used in the US (and a few other countries), and the ICD 10 (soon to be ICD 11) is what's used worldwide. The DSM 5 is more up to date so it's combined AS and HFA (into level 1 ASD) which reflects the reality (they're the same thing), while the ICD 10 came out in the 90s so has Asperger's as a separate diagnosis. The ICD 11, which replaces the ICD 10 soon (I think about a year?), also removes AS, thankfully.

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12 Apr 2017, 7:35 am

TheAP wrote:

Technically, high functioning autism isn't an official diagnostic term. The official term is Level 1 autism.

Even level 3 has ranges from high functioning to moderate to low.

Likewise level 1can be low functioning/severe for that level of autism. That's why Aspies are all over the place on how well they function.

There have been posters describing having low functioning level 1/Aspergers. Which is likely borderline level 2.

That's the way I see it anyways.

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12 Apr 2017, 8:34 am

To my understanding, the levels have to do with how much support one needs. Without describing what assistance at each level, leaving the levels open to interpretation for whomever diagnosing.

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12 Apr 2017, 8:57 am

iliketrees wrote:

The DSM 5 is more up to date so it's combined AS and HFA (into level 1 ASD) which reflects the reality (they're the same thing), while the ICD 10 came out in the 90s so has Asperger's as a separate diagnosis. The ICD 11, which replaces the ICD 10 soon (I think about a year?), also removes AS, thankfully.

Why "thankfully"?

Most other syndromes are named after the clinician who first described them. Why should Aspergers be any different?

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12 Apr 2017, 9:03 am

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Why "thankfully"?

Most other syndromes are named after the clinician who first described them. Why should Aspergers be any different?

The name doesn't bother me, I'm glad that Asperger's will be merged with HFA, I'm hoping that it'll help put a stop to the BS stereotypes people on this site come up when they insist Asperger's is distinct. Wishful thinking, don't mind me, I'm just incredibly sick and tired of being stereotyped.

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12 Apr 2017, 9:12 am

iliketrees wrote:

I'm not familiar with these BS stereotypes. Perhaps I'm lucky and just haven't run across them, since I'm only an occasional visitor to this site.

I tend to use the terms interchangeably, since they both mean the same thing. I just like the idea of honoring the guy who first described the condition. And naming the syndrome after him is the way that's usually done in science.

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12 Apr 2017, 9:22 am

Amaltheia wrote:

iliketrees wrote:

Same for me, I usually refer to Aspergers socially (support groups, etc). But Autism on official forms, such as school… I do avoid the word disability, I maybe a bit in denial about that part.

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12 Apr 2017, 1:03 pm

This is too confusing! I can't wrap my head around it if that the right saying. Do I have Asperger or Autism level 1?

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12 Apr 2017, 1:23 pm

Kitty4670 wrote:

This is too confusing! I can't wrap my head around it if that the right saying. Do I have Asperger or Autism level 1?

What was called Asperger's is now (in USA) or will be (worldwide) called Autistic Spectrum Disorder. I think most are level 1, but I have seen some as level 2. Sorry I'm not explaining well. You can say either I think.

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12 Apr 2017, 1:57 pm

iliketrees wrote:

Kitty4670 wrote:

This is too confusing! I can't wrap my head around it if that the right saying. Do I have Asperger or Autism level 1?

Thanks for explaining. Why call it Autism Spectrum Disorder? My mom did tell me that Aspergers have a hard time with change.

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