Why do NTs think everyone is the same?

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13 Apr 2017, 9:31 pm

Most NTs seem to have no concept of the fact that there are people who think and act differently from them. If we struggle to make small talk, they think we're rude. Since THEY can make small talk easily, it must be easy for everybody! Since THEY have bushels of friends, there's no reason for you not to! What's so hard to understand about the fact that not everybody is alike?



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13 Apr 2017, 10:40 pm

If they're able to ride their bike off the sidewalk, you should be able to as well. If they're able to live in the present, you should be able to do that or want to do that. If they like the latest fashions or music, than you should be able to do the same thing. If they're mature enough to be themselves without wanting to wear something related to a favourite character of theirs, you should also be mature enough to do the same.


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14 Apr 2017, 12:56 am

Talking about generalisations while generalising. Love it. :lol:



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14 Apr 2017, 1:01 am

What irks me about this is that it is a "common Aspie symptom" to think everybody else thinks the same as you and don't realise that other people have different dislikes or opinions to you. But neurotypicals are just as bad!

Why do natural human traits always get listed down as Aspie traits as though neurotypicals are perfect beings who understand and accept everybody? :?


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14 Apr 2017, 1:01 am

I dunno.

Why do some people with ASD think all NTs are the same?


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14 Apr 2017, 1:15 am

It's called culture. :lol:


.. What are the odds of mistaking a 'foreigner' for a native, then hence the expectations?

What are the odds that any NT would go into a 'foreigners' territory, with different expectations and norms? And expect things done back in their own territory?

And what would any human do or feel if they are always been a foreigner, with different expectations and concept(or lack of thereof) norm, that had always been mistaken for a native for their whole life? What are the odds that an NT would know how this feels? Let alone expect or have this kind of mindset?


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14 Apr 2017, 6:39 am

Both groups usually lack the imagination needed to imagine other people. Novelists and some "people persons" are exceptions. The assumption of identical motives is particularly pernicious. Lately I have been having a fresh appreciation for history and the passing scene as all being operated by people with lower IQs that I'd estimated.



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14 Apr 2017, 7:20 am

Human nature — we're all guilty of it


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14 Apr 2017, 7:49 am

Raleigh wrote:
I dunno.

Why do some people with ASD think all NTs are the same?


This.



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14 Apr 2017, 8:47 am

I agree. "Mindblindness" seems to be a typical human trait, not necessarily an Asperger or neurotypical one. It depends on the individual.



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14 Apr 2017, 11:34 am

This isn't an NT thing. It's a human thing. Everyone assumes everyone is like them. Even autistic people have said online they thought everyone was like them but they were all just pretending and they did better at it than them. They also assumed everyone processed sensory things the way they did but they just handled it better. If someone doesn't know anything about a disability, they are going to assume that person is lazy or not even trying and even if they do know about a disorder, they think people use it as an excuse or think they're not trying hard enough or think they can do it 24/7 just because they have seen them do it. If you have never experienced something, you have no idea what it's like. NTs do this with each other too as well.


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14 Apr 2017, 11:47 am

Grammar Geek wrote:
Most NTs seem to have no concept of the fact that there are people who think and act differently from them. If we struggle to make small talk, they think we're rude. Since THEY can make small talk easily, it must be easy for everybody! Since THEY have bushels of friends, there's no reason for you not to! What's so hard to understand about the fact that not everybody is alike?

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People, even we, use heuristics instead of observing and analyzing. It's a survival adaptation, but focused thinking also helps survival. Evolution is nice like that. The results don't necessarily look like the system we would build if given a blank slate, but you can see a logical progression in human mental development.

Lots of other good answers in this thread. They all kind of fit together for me to make a fairly complete and sensible picture. Learn to love people for their peculiarities, smile genuinely, and illuminate their erroneous assumptions where profitable and fun.


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15 Apr 2017, 7:52 am

I was going to say I don't think they do, until I read your post correctly.

I was thinking to my past fiance, who did not think everyone was the same, and was different herself. I am wondering now though if she possible had autism too, as her brother does and a lot of her traits seem to point to that.

I have had it lots of times where people think I am rude, or weird, for not talking. One example was when I was attending college, and two girls I recognised from school asked for a cigarette at the train station. They started to talk to me, sitting next to me, but I had trouble speaking to them. Soon they was just talking to each other, completely ignoring me, and afterwards I heard them mention I was a 'weirdo'.

Just because I found it very hard to make eye contact, and only answered with simple yes and no answers, it wasn't because I was being rude. It was because I did not know how to communicate, and also was very, very nervous due to this.

I think as they are used to the way they, and most of their friends are, the fact that there ARE people that are different to them seems incomprehensible to them.



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15 Apr 2017, 4:39 pm

Because theyre human? Like us!

I thought everyone thought in pictures, i thought everyone was sensitive to noise, i didnt know that body language was a thing.

And Non-autistics think that everyone things the same because really people without disorders actually do think the same, they have the same thought processes and the same deep rooted needs and wants.

All humans are the f*****g same, unless your atypical IE autistic.


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15 Apr 2017, 4:43 pm

There are people who are non-autistic but have another disorder, by the way.


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15 Apr 2017, 4:55 pm

I think this may have less to do with being NT or ND, and more to do with self-awareness levels. Some ND people are highly self aware, some NT people are incredibly not.. and vice-versa. The understanding that people are unique with unique experiences and perceptions is tied to being self-aware rather than being NT or ND.