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01 May 2017, 5:45 am

Hi hope someone will answer this topic.
I recently posted for suicidal issues and i am still going through a very hard time, but i wondered if i had Aspergers or brain damage.
Before a serious head injury i had in 2010 due to a bad fall i had some symptoms of Aspergers such as social awkwardness and sorting objects. I also read quite early and prefered reading than other things.
I dont think i had childhood brain damage as there are no records at the hospital of having hypoxia or anoxia or damage due to forceps or whathever. I tried to kill myself yesterday night as i cant bare life anymore always beeing in doubt about having brain damage.
Anyway my psychiatrist before told me that maybe i only had social phobia and not Aspergers because i am kind of outgoing towards people and this is not a sign of autism as for him usually autistic people are pretty introvert .
Maybe is it the result of a brain injury.
I was diagnosed with Aspergers by a multidisciplinary team composed of neuropsychologist child psychiatrist and neurologist. I did the Ados 2 and wais iv as well as Vineland scale as well as the Autism Quotient test. If there was brain damage would have it been ruled out?
What do you think?



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01 May 2017, 6:27 am

ceo145 wrote:
Hi hope someone will answer this topic.
I recently posted for suicidal issues and i am still going through a very hard time, but i wondered if i had Aspergers or brain damage.
Before a serious head injury i had in 2010 due to a bad fall i had some symptoms of Aspergers such as social awkwardness and sorting objects. I also read quite early and prefered reading than other things.
I dont think i had childhood brain damage as there are no records at the hospital of having hypoxia or anoxia or damage due to forceps or whathever. I tried to kill myself yesterday night as i cant bare life anymore always beeing in doubt about having brain damage.
Anyway my psychiatrist before told me that maybe i only had social phobia and not Aspergers because i am kind of outgoing towards people and this is not a sign of autism as for him usually autistic people are pretty introvert .
Maybe is it the result of a brain injury.
I was diagnosed with Aspergers by a multidisciplinary team composed of neuropsychologist child psychiatrist and neurologist. I did the Ados 2 and wais iv as well as Vineland scale as well as the Autism Quotient test. If there was brain damage would have it been ruled out?
What do you think?


Well, injuries to the brain can cause changes in personality. Did you ever get examined by a neurologist after this incident happened? I feel horrible for you that you'd have to endure such a brutal, unforgiving condition such as brain damage. It doesn't make sense to me that the most essential organ in the human body has to be the most easily damaged, least repairable one and that once anything happens, your life is pretty much f****d. In all honesty, I'd suggest you go to a neurologist to determine if anything happened. Usually, really severe head injuries will be able to show up on an MRI, so you'll at least know if your theory is true or not. If it is, you might be eligible for a treatment that could completely obliterate the damage called stem cell infusion, but I must warn you, it does cost quite a bit because no company in the US (guessing you live there?) will insure it yet, due to the dumbasses that run our government. Either way, good luck in finding out what's the cause of this. I really suggest you do.



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01 May 2017, 11:36 am

I have been examined by a neurologist who told me that i probably didn't have brain damage as for today.
Do you think my aspergers was caused by a trauma? I know it can cause autism like symptoms but not the condition itself. Also how can i,figure it out if i have brain damage or not?
I dont think my injury was severe because my glasgow coma score was good all the way through.
Some doctors told me it could have been severe because there was i tiny blood clot which went away by itself but maybe in some cases it can cause permanent brain damage.
Do you think Aspergers can be caused by a brain injury?



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01 May 2017, 12:44 pm

I have brain damage.

Do you have "flat affect" mostly ? I feel like my "flat affect" is from brain damage.

I feel emotion, it's just that the emotion rarely manifests facial expressions.

I once won $6000 on a slot machine, and people were telling me that I should "get excited". I was inside, but the neurological message doesn't go to my facial expressions.



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01 May 2017, 1:40 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
I have brain damage.

Do you have "flat affect" mostly ? I feel like my "flat affect" is from brain damage.

I feel emotion, it's just that the emotion rarely manifests facial expressions.

I once won $6000 on a slot machine, and people were telling me that I should "get excited". I was inside, but the neurological message doesn't go to my facial expressions.


Oh my god, that's horrific. Like I said, it disgusts me that the brain is our most important organ, yet also one of the most goddamn defective ones in our body. It can't heal itself fully from anything, which is absolutely infuriating. On another note, isn't flat affect common in Aspies who do not have damage? I thought they tend not to emote very much.



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01 May 2017, 1:53 pm

CuriousButDepressed wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
I have brain damage.

Do you have "flat affect" mostly ? I feel like my "flat affect" is from brain damage.

I feel emotion, it's just that the emotion rarely manifests facial expressions.

I once won $6000 on a slot machine, and people were telling me that I should "get excited". I was inside, but the neurological message doesn't go to my facial expressions.


Oh my god, that's horrific. Like I said, it disgusts me that the brain is our most important organ, yet also one of the most goddamn defective ones in our body. It can't heal itself fully from anything, which is absolutely infuriating. On another note, isn't flat affect common in Aspies who do not have damage? I thought they tend not to emote very much.

It's not like that.

I have been this way my whole life. I find emotional people to be annoying and odd.

Yes, reduced affect is common in ASD people.



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01 May 2017, 2:22 pm

ceo145 wrote:
I tried to kill myself yesterday night as i cant bare life anymore always beeing in doubt about having brain damage.

If you kill yourself ... all you would be doing is satisfying the jerk-offs who made you think brain damage = damaged person.



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01 May 2017, 2:36 pm

I am having an MRI scan on Thursday to determine if my brain is damaged or not.

I have been emotionally flat for as long as I can remember, and my memory is beyond abysmal. Even though psychiatrists and doctors ascribe all of my problems to poor mental health, I refuse to accept that a foggy/blank mind that has lasted for over five years is nothing more than depression and anxiety. If my brain scan results are clear or inconclusive then I don't know what I will do. Suicide might be my only viable option, as I cannot endure such absent-mindedness and emotional numbness for the rest of my life.

I cannot fathom how anyone could be content with a mind that doesn't think about anything the majority of the time. If I were a neurotypical, I could mask some of my problems by socialising with other nitwits. But alas, I am autistic and cannot relate to anyone.


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01 May 2017, 3:49 pm

JakeASD wrote:
I am having an MRI scan on Thursday to determine if my brain is damaged or not.

I have been emotionally flat for as long as I can remember, and my memory is beyond abysmal. Even though psychiatrists and doctors ascribe all of my problems to poor mental health, I refuse to accept that a foggy/blank mind that has lasted for over five years is nothing more than depression and anxiety. If my brain scan results are clear or inconclusive then I don't know what I will do. Suicide might be my only viable option, as I cannot endure such absent-mindedness and emotional numbness for the rest of my life.

I cannot fathom how anyone could be content with a mind that doesn't think about anything the majority of the time. If I were a neurotypical, I could mask some of my problems by socialising with other nitwits. But alas, I am autistic and cannot relate to anyone.


I empathize immensely with you. Do not hurt yourself and please do your best to try and get help for these issues. Doctors have been telling me the same thing lately, that my memory is worse due to stress I have over a minor mistake I made with my medication. I'm hoping they're right, because brain fogginess is absolutely intolerable. Like I've said before, the brain is too damn defective for an organ that is supposed to house all the important things.



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02 May 2017, 6:20 am

It's not brain damage- it's brain evolution.



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02 May 2017, 6:29 am

Brain damage could give rise to autism-like symptoms, indeed.
I would recommend you find a licensed mental health specialist (preferably one with experience in autism), which might be able to tell the difference.



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02 May 2017, 8:27 pm

I was born cyanotic meaning I wasn't getting enough oxygen which may have caused some brain damage.

But if there is brain damage, it's not something that an be surgically repaired, so it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other.

My impairments and difficulties are the same either way. Treatment, therapy, coping etc are the same either way.

I'm in the same boat either way, so it's like what difference does it make which ocean I'm stuck in?

I've had different jargon thrown at me as to the particulars of my condition. It could be this, it could be that.... "What's the difference in the end result?" I ask. "Well....blah blah bah...." they tell me. Translation: there really isn't any.



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02 May 2017, 8:45 pm

Back in the 1960s and previously, they attributed many "minor" disorders to "minimal brain damage." So "minimal" that it cannot be detected through any means scientists had in those days.



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02 May 2017, 9:52 pm

I was cyanotic at birth and I always wondered if it could be related to my issues (this was back before I even heard of Asperger's Syndrome). There was some speculation by researchers about the link between anoxia and autism for awhile. More recently research seems to be pointed in the direction of neural development, and ASD brains having more neural connections that NT brains, which seems to be the exact opposite of brain damage.

I also have symptoms of dyspraxia, which is characterised by poor coordination and motor skills. Problems with working memory are also associated with it. There is a lot of overlap between ASD and dyspraxia.

These things are all just collections of symptoms, and I suspect there's more than a single cause. About all you can do is deal with the symptoms, through medication, coping strategies, maybe certain kinds of occupational therapy in some cases.



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02 May 2017, 10:24 pm

oldnerd wrote:
I was cyanotic at birth and I always wondered if it could be related to my issues (this was back before I even heard of Asperger's Syndrome). There was some speculation by researchers about the link between anoxia and autism for awhile. More recently research seems to be pointed in the direction of neural development, and ASD brains having more neural connections that NT brains, which seems to be the exact opposite of brain damage.

I also have symptoms of dyspraxia, which is characterised by poor coordination and motor skills. Problems with working memory are also associated with it. There is a lot of overlap between ASD and dyspraxia.

These things are all just collections of symptoms, and I suspect there's more than a single cause. About all you can do is deal with the symptoms, through medication, coping strategies, maybe certain kinds of occupational therapy in some cases.


Same with me and same conclusion.



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02 May 2017, 11:29 pm

oldnerd wrote:
I was cyanotic at birth and I always wondered if it could be related to my issues (this was back before I even heard of Asperger's Syndrome). There was some speculation by researchers about the link between anoxia and autism for awhile. More recently research seems to be pointed in the direction of neural development, and ASD brains having more neural connections that NT brains, which seems to be the exact opposite of brain damage.

I also have symptoms of dyspraxia, which is characterised by poor coordination and motor skills. Problems with working memory are also associated with it. There is a lot of overlap between ASD and dyspraxia.

These things are all just collections of symptoms, and I suspect there's more than a single cause. About all you can do is deal with the symptoms, through medication, coping strategies, maybe certain kinds of occupational therapy in some cases.


Actually with ASD there are more dense connections but fewer connections between regions of the brain. People with ASD have more neurons and synapses but also more damage but the former disguises the latter.

http://newsroom.cumc.columbia.edu/blog/ ... ses-brain/


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Clues to what caused the pruning defect were also found in the patients’ brains; the autistic children’s brain cells were filled with old and damaged parts and were very deficient in a degradation pathway known as “autophagy.” Cells use autophagy (a term from the Greek for self-eating) to degrade their own components.


There are many more extra synapses due to pruning issues but a lot of old and damaged parts. So paradoxically there are more synapses but there's also more damage at the same time.