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emotions=asthetics

emotions=asthetics

i've been studying avante garde music theories as of late, and i found an interesting correlation connecting emotions to asthetics;

asthetics is a branch of philosophy, specifically, axiology, or also known as "value theory".

it is the study of sensory-emotional issues (specifically; judgements, sentiments and taste)

In this sense, axiology is closely tied to the arts. hmmm...

asthetics: "the science of how things are known via the senses."

Judgments of aesthetic value rely on our ability to discriminate at a sensory level. Aesthetics examines what makes something beautiful, sublime, disgusting, fun, cute, silly, entertaining, pretentious, discordant, harmonious, boring, humorous, or tragic.

here's a good example i read about:

delicacy of taste is not merely "the ability to detect all the ingredients in a composition", but also our sensitivity "to pains as well as pleasures, which escape the rest of mankind."Thus, the sensory discrimination is linked to capacity for pleasure. For Kant "enjoyment" is the result when pleasure arises from sensation, but judging something to be "beautiful" has a third requirement: sensation must give rise to pleasure by engaging our capacities of reflective contemplation.Judgments of beauty are sensory, emotional, and intellectual all at once.

and so i now understand emotions more... emotions are innately human. they are not "just" emotional reactions or "dramas" no... but indeed, they are based on sensory intake and also intellectual contemplation.

So i will say this to anyone reading this now... anyone who discards and derides or ridicules you for being emotional, thinking you are less of a person is a hypocrite.

they themselves lack the emotionalities all humans are innately born with. They should be making fun of themselves instead of you... you're complete. they lack.

the more i think i'm weird, the more i learn i'm more normal than ever... sometimes if ya hang out with too many weirdos, they end up turning it all around on you,making you feel like the weirdo. dont buy it. it's a load of crap.

have a great holiday everyone!

Michael Gee ps i'm proud to be aspie and an artist! check out my music, k? thnx!! !!

One can find beauty in the ethereal or the abstruse. Few examples that come to mind
are the quadratic sequence of prime numbers, Magic Squares, various figurate numbers,
and other mathematical curiosities. There is more to aesthetics than sense, sensibility, and
sensuality. Balance is the key.

yes, truth and beauty, dostoevski's the idiot, you must have read that, it's one of my favs.

Hear,hear!

and:is art always supposed to be "good" or "beautiful"?Maybe expressions of complexity,challenge,anomalies,imbalance,and the otherwise inexpressible are just as fair game as phi,golden ratio,Fibonacci,and cosmic harmony.I personally like the whole conceivable palette.I like the inconceivable palette too.

yes, there is truth to the point that there are many more senses of beauty, as you well stated, but it does not negate the fact that many human emotions are indeed based on axiology.

I personally believe that aspies are more in tune with true honest human emotions, and NTs are in denial. Aspies follow their instincts, and NTs follow whatever Oprah tells them to believe on any given day. reliance of self vs reliance on others opinions.

just my two cents...

Michael Gee

BRAVO!! ! i agree whole-heartedly

That's why so many sappy love songs are kinda sucky... because they are so busy being codependent in their lyrics, they never stopped to consider their own point of view, their own personal values and beliefs, and that they cow-tow to the lover that did them wrong and kiss ass. for what? nothing! why on earth give value to someone who did ya wrong? how ridiculous... i say, express yourself honestly, without regret, be yourself, tell it like it is, be real, dont hold back. this is the next step in political correctness, to try and desensitize valued human emotions. i am very happy to know i am honest with myself and i will emote when i feel i need to.

this is why there is such a thing as healthy anger. of course, there is unhealthy anger, yes. but there is healthy anger, and our health depends on our expressing that. you cannot suppress honest healthy anger. you can only express it. it is essential to maintaining healthy self esteem.

"to thine own self be true"

[quote="mikegee"]i've been studying avante garde music theories as of late, and i found an interesting correlation connecting emotions to asthetics;[/quote

Which music theories?

HI! well, i mis-spoke... i meant to say, i am studying avante garde musicians and songwriters to try and understand better how to be more obtuse in my lyrics... ala david bowie. david bowie fascinates me because he can write lyrics from a sad perspective, yet, in a sense he is very detached, emotionally. he almost speaks in code. for instance in "ashes to ashes" song:

"Ive loved all Ive needed love
Sordid details following..."

"Im stuck with a valuable friend
Im happy, hope you're happy too
One flash of light but no smoking pistol"

i mean, he touches on emotions, yet he does so in such a round about way...

its great music too...

Michael Gee