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27 May 2007, 3:04 am

Border aspie.

Someone who has borderline AS. Is between aspergers and NT.


Oh and don't want to forget Border NT. Someone who is close to being an NT. How about Border Aspie NT.



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27 May 2007, 3:11 am

glass half-empty, half-full situation? :)

to me if you have some aspie in the glass you have aspergers syndrome

its a good way to describe yourself though... half aspie/borderline aspie

why am i saying aspie.. i hate that term :x



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27 May 2007, 3:37 am

I'm confused. :?
Where does that new term come from, anyway?


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27 May 2007, 4:24 am

I made it up. I am having troubles accepting the fact I am not a real aspie so I feel left out, lost, so I made up a new term so I have something.



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27 May 2007, 4:42 am

I have trouble defining Autistics and Aspies, and my character who's on the Spectrum, but it's named differently over there, so I came up with Spectrumite, and everyone seems to intuitively know what it means.


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27 May 2007, 4:53 am

is this like Border Collie?
cuz if we're having breeds I think I'm an Irish Wolfhound

I like the spectrum just as is.



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27 May 2007, 5:00 am

Who told you you weren't a real Aspie, anyhow? Your posts radiate aspieness, from my POV. I mean that in a very nice way of course.



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27 May 2007, 5:39 am

I often hear people say stuff like I am "mainly" NT, or I have "got a bit of" AS or I am half AS. I think if you are on the ASD spectrum you "are autistic". It is like being a little bit pregnant or half- pregnant. It doesn't work that way. You are or you aren't and either way is perfectly fine.
Some people are higher functioning, some people are more intelligent, some people have fewer autistic clusters, Some people's traits are not as severe. Irrespectively....If you are on the spectrum you are on the spectrum.



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27 May 2007, 5:44 am

rossc wrote:
I often hear people say stuff like I am "mainly" NT, or I have "got a bit of" AS or I am half AS. I think if you are on the ASD spectrum you "are autistic". It is like being a little bit pregnant or half- pregnant. It doesn't work that way. You are or you aren't and either way is perfectly fine.
Some people are higher functioning, some people are more intelligent, some people have fewer autistic clusters, Some people's traits are not as severe. Irrespectively....If you are on the spectrum you are on the spectrum.

I agree. It's more logical to say that "I'm lower on the Spectrum" or something.


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27 May 2007, 5:51 am

What about if you are borderline between a Border Aspie and Aspie?

How about "Border, border aspie"

Wait a minute, what if you are borderline between "Border, border aspie" and Aspie?

Border, border, border, aspie!! !! !

How about "Baspie"?



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27 May 2007, 6:52 am

I like the idea of "border, border, border aspie". :P It's more fun to say, especially if you say it really fast!



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27 May 2007, 7:30 am

likedcalico wrote:
Border aspie.

Someone who has borderline AS. Is between aspergers and NT.


Oh and don't want to forget Border NT. Someone who is close to being an NT. How about Border Aspie NT.


likedcalico,

I haven't exactly loved cats(I had 2 pet dogs, and have only taken care of other peoples cats). Does that make me NT? Admittedly, I've never been diagnosed, but I have the main Aspie problems, apparently think like an aspie(although I did think more like that earlier), etc.... HECK, I understand so much more after seeing aspergers, and will be rebuilding my life around it.

There had to be some reason why you decided to come here, and identify with being aspie. Frankly, I, and I am sure most others, like people that are in some way HAPPY about it, as opposed to those ONLY HATING it, making fun of it, ONLY talking about stupid cures, or talking ONLY about leaving.

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27 May 2007, 7:40 am

KBABZ wrote:
I have trouble defining Autistics and Aspies, and my character who's on the Spectrum, but it's named differently over there, so I came up with Spectrumite, and everyone seems to intuitively know what it means.


yes, someone who plays on zx-spectrums



27 May 2007, 12:15 pm

gwenevyn wrote:
Who told you you weren't a real Aspie, anyhow? Your posts radiate aspieness, from my POV. I mean that in a very nice way of course.



If you don't meet the AS criteria you don't have AS. That's what a few people say on here. I don't quite meet it but I almost did. Sometimes I meet it but only when I'm stressed out. My boyfriend told me I wasn't AS because I have a learning disability. Is that what no cognitiave delay means, no learning disabilities? I also found out it means they don't have a below average IQ.
Criterias are so complicated to understand. You have to know the meaning of the words. I also know they are written by a group of doctors and I'm sure not all doctors agree what they see in the criteria so they mostly ignore them and diagnose the person with AS anyway, rather they meet it or not. I have been told by one of my online friend's lot of aspies don't meet it, lot of psychiatrists ignore the criteria because they don't follow it, the criteria is wrong.


I am also not like my BF, we are both totally different, he is into the typical aspie stuff and I am not. I am not into electronics or techinal or into math. I can read books, he can't comprehend what he is reading, he can only read technical books but he can read children books but not the teen books. He had a photographic memory, I don't. He has acute sense of smell, taste, sound, light and I don't. He says I would have been like him if it weren't for my hearing loss. I told him I have very little. He is a typical AS and I am more NT compared to him. I think he thinks all aspies are alike and if they don't have the typical aspie tendancies then they don't have it. He has even said people on here aren't AS just because of their lack of development in self help skills. Watch Mozart and the Whale, that gives a good example. Donald and Isabelle were both different. They were not the same, they both had different aspie traits. They both acted differently than each other. And all the other people in the group who were on the spectrum, they were all different, none of them were the same. I think that's what the movie tended to do, make every autistic character different to show people we are all effected differently by it and we are not the same.

Now I can't say to other aspies "So do I" when I don't want to do their needs like lets say I'm a manager and I tell an aspie to do something like help another person out because that person needs help, but the aspie refuses because it's not his job and I never told him ahead of time that he will be doing a new job and I say do it and then he says he has AS and I can't say "So do I but I have learned to adapt and be flexible in a job." I don't believe in special rules. Sound cold hearted eh and NT.



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27 May 2007, 12:40 pm

I don't get it, you're changing your designation based on what other people say? Well, ironically, that is very NT. :)
To be on the spectrum, you must remember that autism is a pervasive developmental disorder. As of this date, we have not determined that is just a personality difference. Temple Grandin believes one day this will be shown to be so. But until that date, we have a cutting off point. Like rossc says, you either are or you aren't.

There's a big trend in the NT parent world to accuse people of "not being autistic enough" when they disagree with the popular autism community. This is about control.
The ongoing debate here about "am I Aspie enough?" is more about fitting in, self-loathing and group identity. I'm sure there is overlap, that some are getting diagnosed that aren't disabled. But I'm sure that's a minority.

And for the umpteenth time, y'all need to stop talking about how Aspies are higher functioning than autistic. That's a bogus designation.



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27 May 2007, 12:49 pm

likedcalico wrote:
Is that what no cognitiave delay means, no learning disabilities?


To my understanding, no. "No cognitive delay" means that the individual described functions at or above the average expectations re: intellectual ability and knowledge base, for his or her chronological age. It does not negate the possibility of learning differences.