Does speaking about you self in 3rd singular make you autist

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06 Aug 2017, 5:35 pm

Does speaking about you self in 3rd singular make you autistic?

From my late mother I learned that as a small child, as I began to speak, I spoke of myself in the third person singular like "he wants to go to bed" instead of "I want to go to bed" :mrgreen:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... n_pronouns

The older brother also confirms this. By the age of 4 I started talking like a normal person, then no one knew I had Asperger's Syndrome.

I wonder if it was not a symptom sometimes that I have Asperger's Syndrome



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06 Aug 2017, 6:36 pm

I've heard of such pronoun reversal before indicating autism. I'm autistic, but I don't recall if I ever did it. There's a description of it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoun_reversal



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06 Aug 2017, 6:40 pm

It is a symptom of autism. I never did it, but my cousin did. :D


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06 Aug 2017, 7:15 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:
It is a symptom of autism. I never did it, but my cousin did. :D

LOL :D



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06 Aug 2017, 9:36 pm

Naturalplastic NEVER talks about himself in the third person!



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06 Aug 2017, 9:53 pm

I don't. I don't even like mentioning my own name. :| Not even as a child I ever mention my own name, nor refer myself other than in 1st person.

Back then, sometimes, there's no pronouns at all. No straight 'opinions' either other than questions of how and why underlaying 'I want' or 'I thought'.



I've seen and heard others referring themselves in 2nd/3rd person -- not just from autistics.


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07 Aug 2017, 4:21 am

No, but I do tend to speak about people in inanimate or impersonal terms. Often as "that creature" or "those animals." I also will often reference people not by their names but by their roles - "the doctor," "the neighbour" "the shop woman," etc. I used to refer to myself as "this one" but don't seem to do that so much anymore. Will still refer to others as "that one / these ones" though.


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07 Aug 2017, 4:34 am

I've heard yonger kids with more severe autism do this.



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07 Aug 2017, 6:45 am

EzraS wrote:
I've heard yonger kids with more severe autism do this.


So I'm not the only one :mrgreen:



In my childhood I did not say much, but I made other strange sounds, screams, and the like, my mother said I was better at opera than that, (in screaming :D ) but when I was 5 years old, I became more normal and started to speak normally, despite Not all of them glazed because I had a slight defect in pronunciation.

Then when I was a teenager a psychiatrist diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome, she said that my speech problems, and practically nothing talking during my childhood, and my tantrums when I was a little kid, disassemble a home electronics component such as a radio receiver that ended up with an electrical shock of 220 V :( were not symptoms of ADHD as I thought but just Autism :mrgreen:



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07 Aug 2017, 11:23 am

Does speaking out about your self in the third person make you like Trump? Does this definitely prove Trump is Autistic?


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07 Aug 2017, 12:19 pm

I'm going to start cataloguing all these things that are supposedly autistic traits and publish my own diagnostic manual. Under "Does the subject have autism?" it will simply say;

"Yes."



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09 Aug 2017, 11:58 am

Julius Caesar referred to himself in the third person all through his books The Gallic War and The Civil War, but I don't think he ever got a diagnosis.



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10 Aug 2017, 3:56 am

Senator, and presidential contender, Bob Dole would talk about himself in the third person, but he was never dxd with an ASD either.



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10 Aug 2017, 4:23 am

I believe it depends on the initial context. For example if i am taking about something i think many people can relate to i will often use ''we'' i actually find using ''i'' too much, a little uncomfortable. If it is something i have done of fault then i will refer to myself in the singular.. I will own my fault...

Using third person is often a narcissistic tendency to avoid directly owning their own mistakes. An example of this happened in my last relationship with someone that was a high functioning alcoholic. Said all the right things etc to gain trust but then ended without any warning. When confronted they said:

" I used you, i manipulated you and i deceived you, That was the alcoholic Jill speaking''

They refused to take ownership of their own actions and decisions and by putting themselves in a 2nd 3rd person narrative, it was a pathological way of not taking responsibility for their own actions hence avoiding any fault... Ironically they are now a life coach and a self proclaimed ''hedonist'' which ironically their main philosophy is avoiding anything negative of which they have wrongly interpreted as avoiding any pain and suffering they have imposed on others, there for not confronting and rectifying their negative behaviors and by doing so often go on a gaslighting spree to gain artificial support to effectively justify their own actions and turn the conversations away from them onto the other person.



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10 Aug 2017, 4:58 am

I believe in autism it's a matter of a name others identify you as, rather than it being how one identifies self. A matter of two differing perspectives, theirs and self. Self is just self. Ezra is what they call self.



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10 Aug 2017, 5:12 am

A friend worked with a guy in her office who would lapse into the third person about himself if you confronted him about job related infractions. More the once would he hang his head in shame and say "I don't know why John Smith[whatever his name was] gets into so much trouble..sniff....!"

He was definitely an odd duck of a person. But I doubt that he was an aspie or an autistic.