methods to survive info overload other than withdrawal?

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cognizant
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29 May 2007, 1:05 pm

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29 May 2007, 3:45 pm

pretty much just withdrawal I think...
If I don`t see the signs and escape of can`t escape then I switch off totally (thought it was petit mal epilepsy before hearing about meltdowns)


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29 May 2007, 5:59 pm

I'm actually trying to write a video on this.

One thing is familiarity. Keeping as many things familiar as possible, or keeping a familiar thing to focus on around.

Another is cutting out various sensations where possible.


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29 May 2007, 6:11 pm

I don't know about anyone else but I have a realy hard time telling when I am stressed. I can't look at the way I feeling I look at what behaviors I am ingaging in on the outside. I don't know wether I am being clear so sorry :?



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30 May 2007, 3:27 am

anbuend wrote:
I'm actually trying to write a video on this.
One thing is familiarity. Keeping as many things familiar as possible, or keeping a familiar thing to focus on around.
Another is cutting out various sensations where possible.

Hmm... Cutting out sensations is another name for withdrawal.
Familiarity -- what do you mean? Is it keeping all the things predictable so it is like watching the same movie again? In this case you receive no information at all because amount of information depends on level of its unpredictability. Or things must sound familiar i.e. they must be connected to what you already know?



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30 May 2007, 4:15 am

I'd be interested to hear any ideas on this too. I am obliged to spend Christmas with my brother-in-law's family this year, in a house I've never been to before. There will be at least 8 adults and 6 children there. It's a very long way from home, I don't know if I'll get a proper bed to sleep in (I've been made to sleep on a lilo on a freezing cold floor when visiting them before at another house I didn't know), or whether I'll have a room of my own to retreat into (last time the lilo was in the study, which people wanted to used all day long). There WILL be arguments, because there ALWAYS are, and even when they are not arguing they are all yelling across oneanother with nobody listening. It could be hell on earth but apparently there is no way they will accept me not going. :x Frankly I'd like to tell them all to duck off!!

At the moment my plan is to get a prescription for some valium, ready for the visit. I don't see how else I can get through it.


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30 May 2007, 10:27 am

cognizant wrote:
anbuend wrote:
I'm actually trying to write a video on this.
One thing is familiarity. Keeping as many things familiar as possible, or keeping a familiar thing to focus on around.
Another is cutting out various sensations where possible.

Hmm... Cutting out sensations is another name for withdrawal.


Cutting out sensations? So that is possible? :D I need to know how!

(Unless withdrawal means just "going somewhere else"; I don't fully understand English yet.)



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30 May 2007, 10:45 am

Withdrawal can be physically leaving the room ("withdrawing to one's room") or turning inward, ("withdrawing into one's self").
"Shutting off" senses is usually involuntary for us. My hearing shuts out if I'm really focused on something and there's too much noise, but I can't control it. It doesn't occur enough to be helpful either. It usually just omits singular voices and I get told that I'm ignoring.
My husband dims his visual stimuli with sunglasses, literally.

Familiar objects work for my son and husband.



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30 May 2007, 11:41 am

Stellian wrote:
Cutting out sensations? So that is possible? :D I need to know how!

I think anbuend knows exactly.



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30 May 2007, 1:54 pm

cognizant wrote:
Hmm... Cutting out sensations is another name for withdrawal.


No it's not. Wearing tinted glasses for instance is not withdrawal.

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Familiarity -- what do you mean? Is it keeping all the things predictable so it is like watching the same movie again? In this case you receive no information at all because amount of information depends on level of its unpredictability. Or things must sound familiar i.e. they must be connected to what you already know?


Familiarity as in, keep an object around you that is familiar, it can reduce the overload factor of all the other unfamiliar things.

If you go to this video (if your realplayer gives you trouble on that -- mine did -- you can point it here I think) and go to about exactly the 19 minute mark you can see that at a symposium that I knew was going to be overloading, I am wearing dark glasses, holding onto an object that has a familiar shape and texture, and rocking, all of which allow me to easier deal with the overloading environment, none of which are withdrawal. (Although after a time I did have to lie down backstage.) I find that following the sorts of movements my body naturally wants to do, in chaotic situations, is also helpful for reducing overload.


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30 May 2007, 1:57 pm

As far as cutting out certain sensations. You can wear tinted glasses (which tint you want will depend on the person). You can wear earplugs or sound-blocking earphones or other such contraptions (musician's earplugs are the best and most comfortable -- they're form-fitted to your ears -- but expensive). You can wear a hat or some veil-like contraption to block out parts of your visual field. There's all kinds of things you can do to reduce the amount of sensations you have to deal with.


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30 May 2007, 2:58 pm

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As far as cutting out certain sensations. You can wear tinted glasses (which tint you want will depend on the person). You can wear earplugs or sound-blocking earphones or other such contraptions (musician's earplugs are the best and most comfortable -- they're form-fitted to your ears -- but expensive). You can wear a hat or some veil-like contraption to block out parts of your visual field. There's all kinds of things you can do to reduce the amount of sensations you have to deal with.


Oh, I see. I thought it was more like a mental thing.

I'm subscribed to a newsgroup about Sensory Integration Disorder, and there I learned that most neurologists advice against sound-blocking earplugs. They say it's better if you just put normal earphones on and listen to white noise all the time. Some treatment centers give you special CDs and MP3s full of relaxing white noise. I'm not sure if that would work on AS, though.



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30 May 2007, 8:02 pm

Drugs and alcohol. Can't recommend it though. Stick with that sort of withdrawl.



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30 May 2007, 8:20 pm

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30 May 2007, 8:35 pm

I've found that it helps to remind myself that it will eventually end. I also try to focus on something else.

scrulie, that must be horrible. You have my sympathy. :(



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30 May 2007, 9:57 pm

scrulie wrote:
I'd be interested to hear any ideas on this too. I am obliged to spend Christmas with my brother-in-law's family this year, in a house I've never been to before. There will be at least 8 adults and 6 children there. It's a very long way from home, I don't know if I'll get a proper bed to sleep in (I've been made to sleep on a lilo on a freezing cold floor when visiting them before at another house I didn't know), or whether I'll have a room of my own to retreat into (last time the lilo was in the study, which people wanted to used all day long). There WILL be arguments, because there ALWAYS are, and even when they are not arguing they are all yelling across oneanother with nobody listening. It could be hell on earth but apparently there is no way they will accept me not going. :x Frankly I'd like to tell them all to duck off!!

At the moment my plan is to get a prescription for some valium, ready for the visit. I don't see how else I can get through it.


Omg, yeah that is awful... it is really hard for me just to have my tiny family visit on holidays for a few hours, I have to spike my own eggnog... 8O :lol:

Frankly I do not know how you do it, I know I would bow out at the last minute for sure :oops: ... and the valium is probably your best bet yes... good luck to you.