What was your DSM-IV PDD Diagnosis?

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This poll is for people who were diagnosed with Pervasive Developmental Disorders in the DSM-IV (Now called Autism Spectrum Disorder). These include Autistic Disorder, Asperger's Disorder and Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS).

For the people that don't fit one specific answer:

If you were given one PDD diagnosis that was later changed to another PDD diagnosis, select "other PDD diagnosis."
If you were given a non-PDD diagnosis that was later changed to a PDD diagnosis, select "other PDD diagnosis."
If you were given a PDD diagnosis that was later changed to a non-PDD diagnosis, select "other."

Asperger's

I was diagnosed with "Infantile Autism" during the 1960s.

I got back to DSM-I LOL.

I can never be diagnosed with Asperger's. I had a severe speech delay.

"Infantile Autism" was the original only autism. It remained that way until DSM-III, when they came out with Childhood-Onset Pervasive Developmental Disorder (which sounds a lot like we think of autism today). They further changed autism when they spectrumized it in DSM-III-R, so even milder cases could have the new "Autistic Disorder." Failing that, they could have "PDD-NOS." Then "Asperger's Disorder" in DSM-IV and "ASD" in DSM-5. It's interesting how things have changed over the decades.

Back in the 1960s, there were now defunct diagnoses--like "minimal brain dysfunction."

I got diagnosed under DSM-5. Level 1. Should I not vote, or put Asperger's?

Did you have a DSM-IV diagnosis?

I didn't. I was diagnosed quite a long time ago, as I stated before.

So I didn't vote.

That's what is called ADHD now.

Not vote because ASD of any level does not = Asperger's, even if the psychologist who evaluated you says you have an Asperger's presentation or would have been diagnosed with Aspergers.

I am unsure I agree with you. The DSM-V says if you were Dx'd with Asperger's in IV you are now DSM-V ASD Level 1. If the clinician (neuropsychologist in my case) is using the DSM-V then Asperger's isn't a choice. The diagnosis doesn't exist anymore. When he gave the diagnosis he called it Asperger's but in the paperwork it says "DSM-V ASD Level 1". But the poll is limited to DSM-IV Dx's. You're excluding a lot of people. I'm curious what the purpose of the limitation is? What are you trying to measure?

Also you say ASD of any level isn't Asperger's. ASD is Autism. Are you saying Asperger's isn't Autism (or of the same nature as ASD)? I'm asking these questions in earnest curiosity.

Last edited by soloha on 06 Oct 2017, 12:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If the DSM-IV-TR was followed strictly by subtext, I couldn't have Asperger's disorder either. Including prematurity, I was developmentally delayed especially in motor skills (fine motor, mildly behind in expressive speech) past 3 years old. What I could say stalled for a while before it progressed. Speech issues persisted throughout my childhood...complex dyspraxia-related (still as an adult, but am much better!)

The psychiatrist told to my mom and I, "She has Asperger's syndrome; a high-functioning form of autism".

I am not saying Asperger's isn't autism or of the same nature of ASD. I am aware many diagnosticians still use the term "Asperger's" but in the paperwork they put "Autism Spectrum Disorder" if they are using DSM-5. The poll is based on what your paperwork says, not what the doctor "calls it." In your case I imagine the doctor meant you present like someone with Asperger's as opposed to another form of autism. That is not the same thing as a DSM-IV Asperger's diagnosis. This is due to different diagnostic criteria.

1. The point of the poll is to see what categories people were put in before the landslide of the DSM-5 ASD diagnosis.

2. You don't seem to have the DSM-5 text right in front of you like I do, because your information, while close to accurate, is still inaccurate. ASD in DSM-5 isn't Asperger's as defined in DSM-IV. DSM-5 includes people with a "well-established DSM-IV diagnosis of autistic disorder, Asperger's disorder, or pervasive developmental disorder-not otherwise specified." And that they should be "given the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder." There are no severity levels mentioned in the text, so making a guess would be simply that. People are basically grandfathered in. Which is why you shouldn't vote. And actually, they can.

3. I have a different poll for DSM-5.

You are correct. Thank you for the elucidation.

"Minimal Brain Dysfunction," in the 60s and 70s, covered many conditions, including what was Asperger's under the DSM-IV. Not just ADHD. Basically, it was used for kids who was not "normal," and who did not have a known genetic disorder, or an intellectual disability.

The theory of the time stated, in essence, that there was a "brain injury" which was microscopic in size, and could not be detected through conventional means. What else could be causing all these "minor" problems which could become quite major?--that was the answer to that question during the middle to late part of the 20th century.

This would have been especially true if a person was seen as having "perceptual problems." A person with "perceptual problems" back then just might be seen as having "nonverbal learning disability" nowadays. And NVLD is seen as being close cousins with Asperger's.

I never knew that.

I used to go bowling all the time. I was in a league. I used to watch it quite a bit on TV. My high game is 222. I averaged about 130 at my best.