Just blew the PIP assessment :(

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What on earth am i going to do?

Somebody has just been round to my house to do the PIP assessment and i blew it big time

How can i make it through this assessment when i feel very confrontational towards these people?

She was asking all these suicide questions then the soul crushing one 'Whats stopping you?', and i mildly lost it informing her that they've been told not to ask that to people who suffer from suicidal ideation, at which point she stopped the assessment stating she couldn't work in these conditions and left. Think i also said something as she was going out of the door about getting another job if she doesn't like adverse reactions to SS tactics, maybe said she was a murderer too.

I can't control this stuff, it's like tourettes, i HAVE to speak truth to power. o_O

Is their anyone else who has PDA and ODD as well?

f*****g hate being a born rebel, it SUCKS.

Are you sure you have ODD, or are you just, like you said, telling the truth to power?

Maybe she wanted to know what's stopping you so that she can help use it to stop you. I don't know the full story, though, so forgive me.

PIP is a disability payment, Capita are the people who manage your slow suicide for the government, so the questions aren't of a benign nature to provision care, they are a nasty, psychologically active tool to deny benefits by various means including suicide.

Im not diagnosed ODD or PDA but i know that i have them for certain, i've always been like that and i always will, however i can usually control it fairly well but these people are a real problem for me, its akin to having a Nazi SS officer in front of me, deciding if i live or die and i should just smile and say nothing, well, i just can't. grrr, meh, etc etc

OMG; they do that? They could deny you payments because they think you're going to die anyway, or do you mean that they want to wait till you're at death's door before they give it to you? Either way, it's terrible.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 04956.html

They systematically refuse people benefits making you appeal 3 times then you go to a tribunal and generally win, however the suicide rates of people going through this process (could be a year) is scary, what we are seeing is genocide, the culling of what certain quarters would call the 'useless eaters', in terms of autism it is precisely genocide, our genetic proclivities are not welcome.

It was actually to hopefully make you realise what you're doing. Your coping mechanism seems to be blaming others and if you continue down that path you're going to struggle to improve. Instead you need to face up to and own the fact that you were at fault as until you start to do that you'll never change.

The person was just doing their job and that was to help you get assistance and instead they were called a nazi and a murderer. Noone deserves to be treated like that, so if you want to avoid this kind of thing in the future it's something to think about.

Calling me a nazi or framing it as "speaking the truth" isn't going to get you anywhere.

Are you sure you've blown it ? Sounds to me like you might of just proved your difficulties and it might be a blessing in disguise. Don't be disheartened until you know for sure i.e have it in writing.
The majority of claims are dismissed anyway and after appeals approx 70% of people are successful.
At the same time you should make a formal complaint to the benefits agency about the assessors methods. If the company was Capita then it's no wonder they are useless. I have read about people who have had assessments and scored 0 points , they then appealed and complained about Capita and were re-assessed without any additional information and received PIP ??????? This company is a complete farce.
I wouldn't be too worried until you receive formal notification.

That question is one that could, in probability, inflame me. It sounds like the kind of weird questions people evaluating me over the years have asked. This person sounds as if she has an incredibly low frustration tolerance, among other issues and probably shouldn't be working in this type of environment if she upped and left so quickly. In my experience, confronting people like that with the truth doesn't help. Nobody's "at fault." It just sounded like a sad epic communication fail. I hope things work out for you and that you didn't "blow it" as badly as you think. I hope, as another poster said, this alerted someone to your need for assistance. A more patient evaluator willing to actually listen would probably help a lot.

You have not seen her job description so you do not know if she was supposed to ask "what's stopping you?"

When someone on duty interacts with me,, it's like they can hide behind an entire organization. Like they are just doing their job

When I am working and interacting with someone that is not working it's like customer service

Seriously it's like I am almost always morally inferior. And I ain't got no rights or emotions

If you are concerned about having ODD or PDA, you can try and get assessed for it and get help with it so you can function better. If she broke a rule, report her to whatever service she works for.

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Before you report her, make sure that specific law applies in that situation (location and time). Some laws change. Some laws do not apply everywhere

That makes me paranoid though



Because what if you correctly report her and she denies she said it?

Sometimes I feel like I have to take a videotape everywhere I go

Absolute, physical, objective evidence



Reminds me of that time ten years ago. Landlord told me I did three loads laundry in one week. I correctly told him just two. He insisted he was right. Then he later told me he was wrong

Ok wtf



If he did not trust me on something so trivial, Then maybe he should have taken a videotape

You can get benefits without having a diagnosis? Or do you have a diagnosis for something other than PDA and ODD?

I'm with you there, Floundering. This is supposed to be a support forum.

I'm not going to "support" someone who abuses people for doing their job and doesn't admit they are at fault. That person doesn't need support, they need to learn that they're the one at fault and move on from there. If people "there there" him they simply reinforce his internal monologue that he is in the right.

It wouldn't surprise me if there is more to this that we're not being told.

What's PDA?

Bless you Itchycok, you're not very switched on really are you sunshine.

In both the context and the subtext it is perfectly clear that i blame myself for the reaction towards the insensitive manner in which the representative of a government (whom has been investigated and condemned by the United Nations in its treatment towards the disabled in particular PIP ATOS and Capita (See 1,2)) broached the subject of suicidal ideation, which in the past DWP, Capita and ATOS have denied should be asked (3,4)

What i am finding most revealing in this thread is the manner in which you have targeted me knowing full well i am on the left politically.

It begs the question, why are you and your ilk allowed to operate on this forum acting in such a predatory manner.

By the very nature of this website the large majority of its users would potentially be classified as 'vulnerable' and as such it is reasonable to assume that when we are sharing our experiences of navigating life we are more than likely at our most fragile.

As a cohort we are at a much higher risk of suicide (5,6) and as such as a community we know that when those black dog days are bearing down upon us the last thing we need are predators circling looking for moments of weakness to exploit in order that your Id (7) may gain some sort of nourishment.

Now i know your ego likes to think you're super smart and that this weak, weak attempt at trolling was a class piece of subterfuge and you have cunningly concealed it using faux psychotherapy, well i'm sorry, you aren't, it ain't and it isn't.

I will now ask that you leave this thread and comment no more, your 'support' 'advice' or whatever platitudes you would like to use to embed yourself here is not welcome nor wanted and are only stifling my attempts to respond to genuine folks.

or in other words, f**k off.







1 http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/CRPD/P ... edure.aspx
2 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 04956.html
3 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 82991.html
4 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ng-britain
5 http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanps ... 15-0366(14)70248-2/abstract
6 http://network.autism.org.uk/knowledge/ ... nd-suicide
7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego_and_super-ego