Finding other people's chatter stressful
I was just thinking about work and if or when I will ever be ready to go back. I was thinking earlier today that I am just not stable and am probably months away from being fit to return. I think the doctor at occupational health was right, but that doesn't take the pressure off me when it comes to keeping my job. I've already been off for 7 months this year so far. Anyway, the reason for my post is I popped into work yesterday to print some stuff off and one of the things was for a meeting I have with HR about when I'll be back. While I was sat there there were two members of staff behind be talking and what I would call faffing, going back and forth with their chatter which to me just seemed inefficient and kind of unnecessary. They weren't even talking to me. They were having a sort out of things and deciding what to do with some accessories for the hoists we use. Whether to throw them out, find a needy person or whatever. I don't know. It just seemed like a faff and nonsense chatter, whereas I would simply just throw them out, or deal with it and not start a whole annoying and pointless debate (to my mind anyway).
As I sat there with my back to them on the computer listening to their inane back and forth chatter I found myself feeling irate, anxious, stressed and I don't know. Just generally annoyed and uncomfortable. It reminded me of what it is like when I'm at work in the main department and around my colleagues. I just thought to myself yesterday I can't take this. But today I am thinking of it some more and thinking if I can't even cope listening to two people have a conversation like that which doesn't even involve me without stirring up a lot of feeling in me then how and when am I ever going to go back to work. It made me realise that actually, I am probably still in pretty bad shape. Am I making sense. Is this how it is for others and is it ASD related or is it because I'm depressed, or anxious or what. I know I felt stressed and anxious sitting there thinking OMG, this is what I am going to come back to when I'm at work again. I just don't know what I'm going to do. How can I get over or around this? Will medication help?
Sorry for the long post and a million questions but I really do wonder what is going to become of me
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I'm working with ASD, generalised anxiety disorder and recurrent depression and they frequently kick my ***
It's so hard! I like and want to work with people and patients but I just cannot take it. I want to be alone and work alone somewhere quiet but I don't see how I am going to be able to in my profession. It just seems impossible. But then even if I did find a totally different job where I worked alone over time I would feel really isolated. I live alone as it is, I do like to interact with people but on my terms and in very small doses. Argh!
Btw, noise cancelling headphones aren't really an option when I have to deal with patients. I think they would probably annoy me anyway
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I'm working with ASD, generalised anxiety disorder and recurrent depression and they frequently kick my ***
Hi my name is Cat,
I totally get it. I can't even sweep a floor if someone is talking to me it gives me a slow burning feeling. Then sometimes (usually family members) will follow me around nutting on and on about some issue (usually my inability to play house correctly) then I will just crack it.
Taking Ritalin helps me crack it less. Also I understand about the whole annoyance that they can't make a simple decision. I refuse to go to meetings at work because that circlic conversation annoys me soooooo much. Have u ever been with a group of ppl trying to decide which restaurant to go to? Does this annoy u too? So inefficient.
Yes that annoys me. As do the cyclic type of conversations you mention. It's like I have no patient and I just feel myself bubbling up inside and then eventually I will snap and have a bit of an outburst or rant.
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I'm working with ASD, generalised anxiety disorder and recurrent depression and they frequently kick my ***
I totally get it. I can't even sweep a floor if someone is talking to me it gives me a slow burning feeling. Then sometimes (usually family members) will follow me around nutting on and on about some issue (usually my inability to play house correctly) then I will just crack it.
Taking Ritalin helps me crack it less. Also I understand about the whole annoyance that they can't make a simple decision. I refuse to go to meetings at work because that circlic conversation annoys me soooooo much. Have u ever been with a group of ppl trying to decide which restaurant to go to? Does this annoy u too? So inefficient.
Yes so inefficient and so annoying too .
I mean is either a steak Chinese Indian Italian Pizza seafood or fast-food.
And taking the Ritalin only helps you crack it less.
I think the solution may be to take the Crack but then do you smoke it or snort it so many choices.
Lol so true.
I had to organise a dinner for a group after 67 group text messages we locked in the date, time & restaurant then some idiot did the whole "guys I'm going to sit this one out because I don't like that restaurant" I'm not sure the rage I felt was proportional to the situation I replied "do u want me to have a stroke!! You are killing me!" I did put a smiley face though so u know hmmm social skills in action lol.
Then I felt bad so moved the whole thing to another restaurant to a seemingly identical restaurant down the street. I just have no understanding of people.
I'm constantly baffled by just how much NTs can talk without saying anything: stating the obvious, meaningless pleasantries, small talk, repeating things they've already said, redundant instructions, unsolicited explanations, imprecise wording, circumlocutions...
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--"Galadriel's Song of Eldamar"
As I sat there with my back to them on the computer listening to their inane back and forth chatter I found myself feeling irate, anxious, stressed and I don't know. Just generally annoyed and uncomfortable.
I agree with you 100%. I too cannot tolerate NTs and their mind numbing ego-driven chatter about nothingness. They accomplish nothing except to drive up their own feelings of status and ego, all the while simply making a big show and drawing attention to themselves. And all the time they were trying to decide on what restaurant to go to.
Another thing that really bothers me is how NTs are totally dishonest with each other and themselves and everything becomes about their own ego. Even the most unrelated subjects somehow get drawn back to their egos. It's pathetic.
Their inefficiency, mind-numbing lack of vocabulary, fluffy wording, and small talkish jargons.
It also makes me feel stressed, anxious, impatient, angry and sometimes I can become unglued by it all.
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ADHD, OCD, and PTSD.
Keep calm and stim away.
As I sat there with my back to them on the computer listening to their inane back and forth chatter I found myself feeling irate, anxious, stressed and I don't know. Just generally annoyed and uncomfortable. It reminded me of what it is like when I'm at work in the main department and around my colleagues. I just thought to myself yesterday I can't take this. But today I am thinking of it some more and thinking if I can't even cope listening to two people have a conversation like that which doesn't even involve me without stirring up a lot of feeling in me then how and when am I ever going to go back to work. It made me realise that actually, I am probably still in pretty bad shape. Am I making sense. Is this how it is for others and is it ASD related or is it because I'm depressed, or anxious or what. I know I felt stressed and anxious sitting there thinking OMG, this is what I am going to come back to when I'm at work again. I just don't know what I'm going to do. How can I get over or around this? Will medication help?
Sorry for the long post and a million questions but I really do wonder what is going to become of me
Sorry you're going through all that. I can definitely relate. 90% of people in my office chit chat like that all day, and it's very distracting. Between the lights above, the computer light, and all the noise, it's very hard to concentrate, even though I have headphones. I think the hard part is you can struggle while trying to work through all that, and look like the worse employee if you have difficulties, while they make friends and do very little work.
A couple of things:
I relate a lot. I'm not very sound sensitive, but my problem is rather that I have no filter, and I take in everything. I suspect that this is more common among females on the spectrum. Is this the case for you? Do you have both sound sensitivity and no filter?
Also, I think you are under a lot of stress due to the PIP affair, which is negatively affecting your mental health.
Does any of this make sense to you?
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I sometimes leave conversations and return after a long time. I am sorry about it, but I need a lot of time to think about it when I am not sure how I feel.
When I saw that in my workplaces I thought of it as "antenna twiddling" - like an anthill, except that ants manage to accomplish things. What amazes me about it is that antenna-twiddling is generally treated as though it is far more important than the stated mission of the group (whatever that may be). Then we see news reports about companies failing, stores going out of business, hostile takeovers , massive layoffs, yada yada. [sarcasm]Gee, I wonder how that could possibly have happened?[/sarcasm]
Putting snark aside, I think the problems with long wait times and lack of service (and the resulting mortality among patients) at the Veterans' Administration facilities in the USA may come from this - the organization has no idea how to get things done because everyone who knows how has been driven out by an antenna-twiddling culture. I know some vets and they tell grim stories about the place.
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"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people," said the man. "You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides."
-- Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
The problem with the VA is that we have had too many troops on the ground for far too long in hostile territory. And the expectation that costly and time consuming surgeries and rehab be provided to the seriously injured survivors. They don't just patch you up and send you home in a wheelchair.
elenorh
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Ha, I can really relate to that one. The ability of NTs to constantly engage in meaningless chatter constantly amazes me.
I sit in the middle of an open plan office which is bad enough on most days but yesterday about 15 additional people from other offices in the organization I work for all came here to this office and the noise here was overwhelming and painful.
Eventually had to find a free seat over in the corner furthest away and put in ear plugs.
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