Discrimination due to autism or bullying?

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Discrimination due to autism or bullying?
Discrimination due to autism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Bullying 27%  27%  [ 3 ]
Both 73%  73%  [ 8 ]
Neither 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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28 Jan 2018, 12:44 pm

Choose one :)


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28 Jan 2018, 6:44 pm

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28 Jan 2018, 7:26 pm

Can we stop with the word "discrimination"? I'm getting so annoyed with that word. Listen I've had people call me mental / crazy, did I take it to heart and get offended? NO! Why? Because I am crazy so they're not telling me something I don't know. Likewise if someone picks on someone due to autism woopy doo! Get over it and move on. Back in the day people were thick skinned they could handle being picked on, now everyone acts like little wimpy snowflakes.

Ps. I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm so sick and tired of this wimpy world.



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28 Jan 2018, 7:39 pm

Kristaok wrote:
Can we stop with the word "discrimination"? I'm getting so annoyed with that word. Listen I've had people call me mental / crazy, did I take it to heart and get offended? NO! Why? Because I am crazy so they're not telling me something I don't know. Likewise if someone picks on someone due to autism woopy doo! Get over it and move on. Back in the day people were thick skinned they could handle being picked on, now everyone acts like little wimpy snowflakes.

Ps. I'm not trying to offend anyone but I'm so sick and tired of this wimpy world.

I guess you are right... :(


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28 Jan 2018, 7:42 pm

It would be good if you could be clear about what you mean in the question. Does it mean ever in your life? Does it mean frequently in your life? Does it have to be actively happening, right now?

I definitely experienced bullying in school growing up, but I tend to think that now, while I don't have anyone I would call a friend, I tend to think people in general tend to like my quirks. Since high school, there has been very little in the way of bullying.

Discrimination is a really tough one, because it is a pretty generic word that can mean many things.

From a legal employment perspective, employers are expected to make a reasonable effort to accommodate for disabilities, and if they don't, they are considered to be discriminating against that person. For someone with sensory issues to noise in a noisy office environment, this could mean that the employer would have to make effort to make sure that the employee didn't have to work in the noisy part of the office.

Or one could take a more deliberate perspective, and say that discrimination has to be deliberate, direct exclusion because of ASD, rather than just a failure to accommodate.

Does the person doing the discrimination have to know about your ASD?

I'm not really sure what you mean by discrimination.


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28 Jan 2018, 7:46 pm

SplendidSnail wrote:
It would be good if you could be clear about what you mean in the question. Does it mean ever in your life? Does it mean frequently in your life? Does it have to be actively happening, right now?

I definitely experienced bullying in school growing up, but I tend to think that now, while I don't have anyone I would call a friend, I tend to think people in general tend to like my quirks. Since high school, there has been very little in the way of bullying.

Discrimination is a really tough one, because it is a pretty generic word that can mean many things.

From a legal employment perspective, employers are expected to make a reasonable effort to accommodate for disabilities, and if they don't, they are considered to be discriminating against that person. For someone with sensory issues to noise in a noisy office environment, this could mean that the employer would have to make effort to make sure that the employee didn't have to work in the noisy part of the office.

Or one could take a more deliberate perspective, and say that discrimination has to be deliberate, direct exclusion because of ASD, rather than just a failure to accommodate.

Does the person doing the discrimination have to know about your ASD?

I'm not really sure what you mean by discrimination.

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28 Jan 2018, 7:49 pm

I’ve suffered bullying in the past.

I might have suffered discrimination.



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28 Jan 2018, 7:49 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I’ve suffered bullying in the past.

I might have suffered discrimination.

What kinds of bullying?


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28 Jan 2018, 8:07 pm

warrier120 wrote:
Too bad I can’t delete my post now

It's OK - I'm not objecting to your post - just seeking some clarification.
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28 Jan 2018, 8:31 pm

I was bullied physically and verbally for my affection for Shadow and my sexual interests back in high school mainly. And overall just for being the way I am, whether or not that being anything related to autistic traits. I'm just glad I didn't end up getting stabbed or something back then considering someone had been at my school and the fact that well... It's a city school in Rochester. We had to go through metal detectors before we could enter the building, go figure.

The high school I went to has changed a lot now, including its name. It's a pain in the butt to get official transcripts from that place now. -.-


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28 Jan 2018, 9:30 pm

All kinds of bullying.

I once had a bunch of penises shoved in my face.

Never was bullied via Internet—-no Internet in the 60s and 70s.

I haven’t really been bullied since my late teens.



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28 Jan 2018, 10:13 pm

I've experienced both in my lifetime.


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29 Jan 2018, 12:07 am

I definitely experienced both bullying and discrimination due to autism and these are deeply destructive in the long term - I still deal with the deeply-ingrained effects. I went to elementary school in the 1960s and high school in the 1970s in southern California and kids with disabilities or who were different in some way were easy targets for physical bullying - really physical assaults is a better word. I withdrew and got insensitive/tough so I didn't get the worst of it - although it was enough to create a deep-grained expectation of negative consequences for ever showing differences, including being smarter than other kids. Short kids, kids with physical deformities, kids with mild intellectual disability, kids who looked different often got it pretty badly. And I've experienced arbitrary discrimination in my work, although I still excelled, but it was clear that if you didn't socialize normally you hit a ceiling so to speak, even if you excelled both technically and as a manager. College and graduate school on the other hand were mostly free from bullying and discrimination. It has a huge impact when you're young and forming your self-image - I can understand how kids get driven to suicide by bullying.



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29 Jan 2018, 4:54 am

Well the important part is standing up for yourself but by that I don't mean acting overly sensitive.