is it an autism thing to be a 'grass'.?

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Caz72
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04 Jun 2018, 2:44 pm

At work alot of the other people call me a grass because i tell on people and tell the boss everything.

I love my job and i hate people doing pointless things like standing around talking or slacking in any way ,

Also i dont always know what should be kept quiet as im not up on all these social cues and stuff, they know i have autism some understand but most dont they just call me grass and bigmouth etc.

Why dont neurotypical like it when i grass on them what is up with that?


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04 Jun 2018, 3:18 pm

Nobody likes to be ratted out to the boss.

Nobody.

One day, you are going to have to explain yourself to the boss when your co-workers rat you out, and you will have little or nothing to say in your defense because it will be their word against yours, and none of them will come to your defense.

BTW: Here in the States, what you call "grassing", we call "ratting on" or "ratting out".


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04 Jun 2018, 6:27 pm

Please stop doing this. This will cost you this job, and many jobs.

Sometimes, when work is slow, people just want to relax on their jobs. What's wrong with that? Don't you want to relax when work is slow?

I understand you think this is a "moral" thing or something.

But this sort of thing will not work in the "real world."

Please understand that I actually admire your moral values.



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04 Jun 2018, 6:35 pm

It is an Autistic thing not to understand social rules or understand the importance of them.

I believe "Grassing" cost me a job back in the 80's.


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04 Jun 2018, 6:36 pm

Oh, and to answer your original question...

Caz72 wrote:
is it an autism thing to be a 'grass'.?
... the answer is 'No'. Being a rat is common among all peoples, all cultures, and all ideologies.


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04 Jun 2018, 6:54 pm

They tell you to be good.

You be good.

They hate you for it.

So, don't be good.

You realize this when they fire you.

You strap C4 around your waist with a detonator

You go back to the building.

You say "And to all a good night", flip everyone the bird, and blow everyone to hell.

You die and make it to the Pearly Gates.

God says upon to you "You've been Naughty! I like that."

God pulls out a blunt and both of you get high as f**k.

God opens the pearly gates. you step in and you are knee deep in fire, brimstone and s**t.

So, before doing stupid s**t like ratting or murdering your fellow man remember kiddies

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.



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04 Jun 2018, 6:56 pm

Just don't tell on people----unless you've actually been sexually harassed or threatened in any way.

I learned this lesson when I was about 5-6 years old....don't tattletale.



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04 Jun 2018, 6:59 pm

I have promised each of my co-workers in turn that I would not rat them out to anyone unless they were doing something illegal or dangerous to themselves and others.

Late for work? Not my problem.

Bringing a firearm to work? Calling the cops...


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04 Jun 2018, 10:21 pm

I was a snitch when I was in elementary skewl. I was in trouble aLOT for various reasons & I felt it was unfair for me to constantly be in trouble despite trying my very best not to be when there were other kids who were getting away with much worse. I also had a need for order & fairness & following the rules was an OCD thing for me. It just caused others including my teachers not to listen to me & others would gang up on me more trying to get me in trouble which they were already doing before but it got worse.


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05 Jun 2018, 12:11 am

I've always been the complete opposite, and always had an innate revulsion towards snitching and snitchers.

Like others here have said, it really is better that you don't. You're not doing yourself any favors.

I have seen the claim before that we are natural born whistle blowers, and that is certainly not a claim that does us any favors. I wonder how prevalent it really is for aspies.


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05 Jun 2018, 5:54 am

Caz72 wrote:
At work alot of the other people call me a grass because i tell on people and tell the boss everything.

I love my job and i hate people doing pointless things like standing around talking or slacking in any way ,

Also i dont always know what should be kept quiet as im not up on all these social cues and stuff, they know i have autism some understand but most dont they just call me grass and bigmouth etc.

Why dont neurotypical like it when i grass on them what is up with that?


I have to admit Caz72, that this is something I suffer from greatly as well as you and that is, excessive honesty and/or "ratting" as we call it in North America but the equivalent in the UK is, as you mentioned, "grassing". It is the reason that I've had more than 35 jobs in my life and why I can't seem to get along with my co-workers especially when they do something that's dishonest like lying or stealing.

For me and you, the morality switch is set on "extremely high" and whenever we see something that isn't morally consistent then alarm bells go off in our heads and it's hard to turn them off. And the only way to silence the moral outrage is to take action to snuff out the immorality wherever we see it. Of course, this doesn't make us a whole lot of friends in the process and only creates enemies. I've had to tone this down significantly over the years but it is been extraordinary difficulty in the extreme.

One skill that I've had to learn is "turning a blind eye but not accepting the wrong". In our minds we have to say "yes I saw something bad happen and I know it's wrong and I do not accept it but I do not have to take action". But of course, in extreme cases we have to take action and this is where the ambiguity lies and that we have the most trouble with.

Practice makes perfect!

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05 Jun 2018, 8:22 am

I dont care for friends all i care about is my job.

I dont grass to spite people. I am a favourite of the boss so if he see me having a autism meltdown he understands why.
If i "grass" on someone he sometimes reassures me and tell me they are probably joking or something.

It wont cost me my job, Ive been working at this depot for 6 years with the same boss.

My job as a bus driver is my pride and joy and my boss says im the best at training new drivers on the bus routes because i dont chitchat and a am firm and bossy and it seems to learn them the routes quicker.


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05 Jun 2018, 8:52 am

Well, your original post said "Why dont neurotypical like it when i grass on them what is up with that?"

I don't know if you have understood the answers people give. I'll throw in one more thing. Neurotypicals become more anxious when they feel like someone who is not their boss may be monitoring them for things to criticize.

Do you like it when things make you more anxious? Well, neither do neurotypicals.

It doesn't seem to worry you that co-workers don't like it, you feel your job performance is just as you like it to be. Well, go on having enemies at work, then. No need to change a thing. However, if you really feel okay with that, then why did you post this thread at all?


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05 Jun 2018, 8:54 am

^ Spot-on, Bea! ^


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05 Jun 2018, 9:05 am

Fnord wrote:
^ Spot-on, Bea! ^

Damn, I've missed you Fnord. (((hugs tight)))


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05 Jun 2018, 9:16 am

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