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03 Jun 2007, 11:41 pm

Having Aspergers is an impairment. A Social impairment. Some people treat us Aspies like it's our fault the way we are and than those people show compassion for someone in a wheel chair.
It really upsets me. Sometimes I wish I was born paralyzed in a wheel chair at least i would get more compassion and not be called a "Crazy Person"

Same with mental illness it's no joke. It's like would you laugh and gossip about a person who has Cancer? I don't know many people who would...... but than a majority of those people after giving compassion the the Cancer patient will talk behind that schizophrenic person's back and poke fun at homeless man who talks to himself. It's an unfair world we live in.



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03 Jun 2007, 11:48 pm

Can a bully help it he has a high level of aggression and must release it on others?

No. But we still hate the bully. There are certain personality types that will always be disliked. The cause is irrelevant--you will be hated regardless.


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03 Jun 2007, 11:50 pm

Yeah.... I find my biggest annoyance is that people see it as something that I can fix if I want to and try hard enough. Even my dad tells me to "just get over it." If I'm worried about having to make a phone call or go to a social thing or go shopping, he tells me that I should "just do it, and quit worrying." And like with eye contact, he doesn't see what the problem is, and why I can't just do it.

Nobody would tell somebody in a wheelchair to "just get up and walk." Or tell somebody with cancer to "get over it already, you can get better if you really want to."

It's weird with my dad, because he was very supportive and understanding when I was depressed, and got so frustrated with my teachers and others who didn't understand what a disability it was. Now that I've got the AS diagnosis (which, by the way, the social fallout from the undiagnosed AS played a large part in the depression), he is being just as thick-headed as those people he was frustrated with.


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03 Jun 2007, 11:52 pm

Maybe if I stopped making jokes about
people with cancer, they'd like me better?



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03 Jun 2007, 11:59 pm

calandale wrote:
Maybe if I stopped making jokes about
people with cancer, they'd like me better?


Hmm...Maybe.



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04 Jun 2007, 1:51 am

Ramsus wrote:
Can a bully help it he has a high level of aggression and must release it on others?

No. But we still hate the bully. There are certain personality types that will always be disliked. The cause is irrelevant--you will be hated regardless.

Well, high aggression and the need to release it on others isn't a pervasive developmental disorder that they can't help!
Beatles_girl, I fully agree with you. It burns me up how people act as if other people CHOOSE to have AS, or any learning disability and treat them accordingly, yet feel compassionate about people with cancer(which in some cases can't be helped, but can still be self-inflicted), or have 10 kids to 10 fathers!


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04 Jun 2007, 1:59 am

cowlypso wrote:
Yeah.... I find my biggest annoyance is that people see it as something that I can fix if I want to and try hard enough. Even my dad tells me to "just get over it." If I'm worried about having to make a phone call or go to a social thing or go shopping, he tells me that I should "just do it, and quit worrying." And like with eye contact, he doesn't see what the problem is, and why I can't just do it.


I agree with that. Sadly I've been told that once or twice in my life....



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04 Jun 2007, 4:09 am

Cyanide wrote:
cowlypso wrote:
Yeah.... I find my biggest annoyance is that people see it as something that I can fix if I want to and try hard enough. Even my dad tells me to "just get over it." If I'm worried about having to make a phone call or go to a social thing or go shopping, he tells me that I should "just do it, and quit worrying." And like with eye contact, he doesn't see what the problem is, and why I can't just do it.


I agree with that. Sadly I've been told that once or twice in my life....


Me too.

I too am incredibly frustrated by the poor and discriminatory attitude that people have towards mental health problems and ASDs. I have problems with statutory services, professionals, public transport, shops, some employers and also my family and the general public.

Their attitude is appalling and I really can't understand what their problem is.



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04 Jun 2007, 6:11 am

Beatles_girl wrote:
Having Aspergers is an impairment. A Social impairment. Some people treat us Aspies like it's our fault the way we are and than those people show compassion for someone in a wheel chair.

Just now I’ve read another thread about treating like a 'disorder'. So I'm confused if it is a disorder or a fault or something else -- what is the official attitude? :)



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04 Jun 2007, 6:25 am

In a lot of ways I don't like having Aspergers, but for the most part I prefer to be different from NTs. I don't find it an impairment, nor indeed a disorder. I like it. I have no trouble making fun of myself, because sometimes it's an either-laugh-or-cry thing. I prefer to laugh.

In terms of other ppl not understanding things.. think about the attitude towards AIDS in the 80's.. ppl are gonna think what they think, even if they've been given all the information in the world about what their thoughts are based on, and neither you nor I can change that. You just have to suck it up.



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04 Jun 2007, 7:26 am

Beatles_girl wrote:
Having Aspergers is an impairment. ... It's like would you laugh and gossip about a person who has Cancer?


It is not an impairment. That's just what they want you to believe, so they can feel superior. For every "deficiency" we have, we have a strength they don't. They've got you brainwashed bad if you're comparing it to cancer! I wouldn't give money to be like them. Hell, I wouldn't take money to be like them. I like who I am, how I am.


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04 Jun 2007, 12:44 pm

Ramsus wrote:
Can a bully help it he has a high level of aggression and must release it on others?

No. But we still hate the bully. There are certain personality types that will always be disliked. The cause is irrelevant--you will be hated regardless.


The bully could get himself a punching bag. No excuses.


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04 Jun 2007, 12:47 pm

Ramsus wrote:
Can a bully help it he has a high level of aggression and must release it on others?

No. But we still hate the bully. There are certain personality types that will always be disliked. The cause is irrelevant--you will be hated regardless.

They don't have to bully people though.



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04 Jun 2007, 12:54 pm

I feel the same way!

I think it's mainly because people don't have compassion for us!


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04 Jun 2007, 12:55 pm

People are b'stards, generally speaking.


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04 Jun 2007, 12:56 pm

Not everyone!

In fact, I've been very lucky lately!


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