Logical Way of Thinking & Common Sense

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22 Aug 2018, 1:59 am

Something I find very frustrating with people in general is How people lack logic and lack common-sense.

Also how people sometimes change a definition of a word as well.

Just wish thing be kept simple and keep at a status quo.



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22 Aug 2018, 4:20 am

I find the same.



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22 Aug 2018, 2:53 pm

Most people don't know that a word has multiple meanings. They just babble.



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22 Aug 2018, 3:27 pm

Logic and common sense are very different things. Logic is the ability to think rationally. Common sense is the shared understanding of how to respond to practical situations. Sometimes common sense isn't logical.


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22 Aug 2018, 3:32 pm

But I know people who can lack both. I get very irritated by it.



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22 Aug 2018, 9:51 pm

Honestly lack of those drive me up the wall too. When people misuse a word I have to resist the strong urge to correct them. NTs might be able to somehow easily guess what each other mean by poorly-constructed sentences with incorrect word usage and bad grammar but I'm autistic and not a verbal thinker and I have to be internally translating a mile a minute to even understand them in the first place. I've never told anyone this, but I secretly constantly correct bad grammar, syntax and word usage when I'm at home alone listening to the radio or a video, lol 8) And if a person I'm talking with seems to lack the ability to put together ideas logically as I lay them out verbally, it takes effort for me not to get critical of them - I mean I'm speaking their language after all, a way of communicating I find limiting, clumsy and a pain. I work hard to put things in a way that an average person using common sense can understand and I guess I get annoyed if they don't at least meet me half-way.



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22 Aug 2018, 10:23 pm

Logic lets you take as many steps as needed. Common sense often tells you the logical equivalent to saying you may be able to walk two or three steps in a row, but there’s no way in hell you can string ten thousand of those steps of yours together to reach that town just over the horizon. Common sense makes you expect short inferential distances.


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23 Aug 2018, 2:24 am

MrMacPhisto wrote:
Something I find very frustrating with people in general is How people lack logic and lack common-sense.

Also how people sometimes change a definition of a word as well.

Just wish thing be kept simple and keep at a status quo.


"The devil can cite scripture for his purpose." - Shakespeare

We create our own logic.



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23 Aug 2018, 3:13 pm

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Second_Doctorhttps://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Second_Doctor

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Doctor Who :The Wheel in Space [5.7]

(27 April - 1 June 1968)
The Doctor: Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.



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24 Aug 2018, 11:35 am

My ex, for whom English was a 2nd or 3rd language, often misused words, so I'd miss what she said next while I translated. The distinctions were probably just not clear to her. I later learned that one of her crazy variations had been learned as a local idiom. It took more years than we were married for me to finish translating some of what she said. I also had an ESL roommate who thought that a "e" at the end of a word was always silent. Decades later, I finally figured that out, and understood many puzzling exchanges.
Common sense is called that because it can arise without formal education, but it does not always do so. What gets called logic is most often rationalization. Most people can't tell the difference, being slaves to their emotions, and hobbled by Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Even expert logicians will disagree, because there is no consensus on the purpose of life, so all must be based on one's chosen assumptions.
For most of my life, I didn't realize that my IQ is double or triple my EQ. I expected people to grasp technical concepts quickly, and they still expect me to understand social situations without help.