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18 Nov 2018, 9:04 pm

I have been feeling this way for the last 5 years or so. I just cannot bring myself to like the modern world. I live in a country that has had its young people nearly destroyed by alcoholism. I am a non-drinker in a country where so many social events revolve around alcohol. Drugs are also something that I have never tried and have no interest in whatsoever. I have found myself becoming increasingly disgusted by things like promiscuous behaviour and porn. I must be the only young Irish man who does not watch porn. Most people my age seem to think this kind of thing is normal. It feels like love is being replaced by lust.

I enjoy things like hiking, drawing, classical/folk music and beautiful architecture. I honestly feel like an alien here in Ireland! I often think that having autism makes things hard enough socially but this on top of that makes a social life seem impossible to achieve. I suppose I am just a bit old-fashioned.



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18 Nov 2018, 9:31 pm

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I have been feeling this way for the last 5 years or so. I just cannot bring myself to like the modern world. I live in a country that has had its young people nearly destroyed by alcoholism. I am a non-drinker in a country where so many social events revolve around alcohol. Drugs are also something that I have never tried and have no interest in whatsoever. I have found myself becoming increasingly disgusted by things like promiscuous behaviour and porn. I must be the only young Irish man who does not watch porn. Most people my age seem to think this kind of thing is normal. It feels like love is being replaced by lust.

I enjoy things like hiking, drawing, classical/folk music and beautiful architecture. I honestly feel like an alien here in Ireland! I often think that having autism makes things hard enough socially but this on top of that makes a social life seem impossible to achieve. I suppose I am just a bit old-fashioned.



I, too, was never into alcohol and promiscuous behavior (er, still not into it :), yet one can see how I turned out!

OK, that may not be the most reassuring, but believe it or not, there are plenty of men and women who follow the same trajectory, they just don't often advertise the fact. You're far from alone in the thinking.


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18 Nov 2018, 9:46 pm

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I have been feeling this way for the last 5 years or so. I just cannot bring myself to like the modern world. I live in a country that has had its young people nearly destroyed by alcoholism. I am a non-drinker in a country where so many social events revolve around alcohol. Drugs are also something that I have never tried and have no interest in whatsoever. I have found myself becoming increasingly disgusted by things like promiscuous behaviour and porn. I must be the only young Irish man who does not watch porn. Most people my age seem to think this kind of thing is normal. It feels like love is being replaced by lust.

I enjoy things like hiking, drawing, classical/folk music and beautiful architecture. I honestly feel like an alien here in Ireland! I often think that having autism makes things hard enough socially but this on top of that makes a social life seem impossible to achieve. I suppose I am just a bit old-fashioned.



I, too, was never into alcohol and promiscuous behavior (er, still not into it :), yet one can see how I turned out!

OK, that may not be the most reassuring, but believe it or not, there are plenty of men and women who follow the same trajectory, they just don't often advertise the fact. You're far from alone in the thinking.


Are any of the rest of the men and women in OP's generation or age group?

But I said this before, I also wish I was born 50-60 years earlier. I only turned of adult age almost 10 years ago while everything was beginning to be f*** up by smartphones and social networking.



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19 Nov 2018, 1:32 am

I also don't like the modern world. I don't like the drugs, drinking, promiscuity or the lyrics and the sounds of the Top 40 songs of today. I haven't since I was 14. I have no interest in any of those things and I've never smoked, drank or had sex. I also like classical, military and folk music along with The Kinks.


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19 Nov 2018, 5:01 am

Levin93 wrote:
I have been feeling this way for the last 5 years or so. I just cannot bring myself to like the modern world. I live in a country that has had its young people nearly destroyed by alcoholism. I am a non-drinker in a country where so many social events revolve around alcohol. Drugs are also something that I have never tried and have no interest in whatsoever. I have found myself becoming increasingly disgusted by things like promiscuous behaviour and porn. I must be the only young Irish man who does not watch porn. Most people my age seem to think this kind of thing is normal. It feels like love is being replaced by lust.

I enjoy things like hiking, drawing, classical/folk music and beautiful architecture. I honestly feel like an alien here in Ireland! I often think that having autism makes things hard enough socially but this on top of that makes a social life seem impossible to achieve. I suppose I am just a bit old-fashioned.


I think anyone who pursues their own passions, in any generation, will feel like you. Most people tend to measure themselves by others and use interests as an excuse to bond/fit in, so it's hard to not feel alien if you're happy with your interests for their own sake.



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19 Nov 2018, 6:16 am

I have always disliked much of modern MASS culture because is so superficial.

However, one very GOOD thing about the modern world is that it's now easier than ever to create new subcultures of likeminded people. So, whatever you might dislike about modern MASS culture, you can find other people who share your dislike and create something new.


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19 Nov 2018, 7:05 am

I never liked that social events in college always seemed to revolve around alcohol. If I could have found any activities related to my interests that didn't involve alcohol, I would have joined them. You aren't alone in not liking that culture.



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19 Nov 2018, 9:29 am

Count your lucky stars it's just Guinness & porn.
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19 Nov 2018, 11:10 am

Thank you very much for all of your replies, it is comforting to know that there are others who feel like they do not fit into this strange world.



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19 Nov 2018, 11:15 am

The "modern" world sucks, yes.

If you were in Ireland in the 19th century, you would have picked this "modern" world over that world. Even the first half of the 20th century. Have you read "Angela's Ashes?"

I grew up in a time when a kid was "seen and not heard." This sort of thinking was still common in the 1960s. I feel fortunate we live in more "free" times nowadays---even though, of course, there's much debauchery about.

Yes, the moral values of the past were very solid and good. But, in reality, quite a few people didn't actually follow these "moral values."

This is coming from a person with a deep interest in nostalgia.



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19 Nov 2018, 11:29 am

Levin93 wrote:
I have been feeling this way for the last 5 years or so. I just cannot bring myself to like the modern world. I live in a country that has had its young people nearly destroyed by alcoholism. I am a non-drinker in a country where so many social events revolve around alcohol. Drugs are also something that I have never tried and have no interest in whatsoever. I have found myself becoming increasingly disgusted by things like promiscuous behaviour and porn. I must be the only young Irish man who does not watch porn. Most people my age seem to think this kind of thing is normal. It feels like love is being replaced by lust.

I enjoy things like hiking, drawing, classical/folk music and beautiful architecture. I honestly feel like an alien here in Ireland! I often think that having autism makes things hard enough socially but this on top of that makes a social life seem impossible to achieve. I suppose I am just a bit old-fashioned.
I mean for me your post s entirely contradicting. Let's make a list of all the problems based on topic
1. Alcoholism: First of all depending on what you mean by moderning i'm assuming you mean like pre 20th century. But alcholism has been widespread for most of history. I mean alcohol isn't going away.
2. Drugs: I'm going to be this person and say i have a hard time believing you've never taken any drugs. I mean most people probably have at one point or another. Coffee is a drug. Most medications are drugs. You probably have done drugs at some point.
3. Sex: Again you migth not have any interest in that, that's fine with you and if you think it's disgusting you do you, But to a point don't take it to far. Love being replaced by lust. Umm, No you can w*k it all you want doesn't replace love. People still need love no matter how much they jerk it. Just no.
4. What you enjoy: Ok I'm going to put these all in one list
a. Hiking: While you cant do this as you do today you still can technically go hiking in the past. So I mean that's half correct/wrong
b. Drawing: You can cave paint but it's not as easy to do and takes more effort. You could also focus your artistic energies in other things, Like crafting or poetry.
c. Classical/Folk Music: Classical music would be done from like the renaissance and some of the instruments are used well into recorded history which brings me to folk music you can listen to folk music as long as it exists which is basically forever folk music has existed in some form for eons. So This point isn't wrong.
d. Architecture. My Last Point. Most of the archietecture has been practical for millenia before the 'modern era' And The few that aren't are usually for venerating gods of some sort, or for astronomical purposes. I mean sure it exists but you'd be unlikely to see it if even hearing about it. So this opint is like half wrong again.
5. Join the club. :wink:


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19 Nov 2018, 11:33 am

There is a category, "Classical" music, which encompasses mostly the 18th and 19th centuries. Mozart. Beethoven. Johann Strass. The advent of the piano.

Before that, there was "Baroque" music. Vivaldi and Bach would be under that category. pre-piano. Lots of harpsichord.



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19 Nov 2018, 12:54 pm

I'm not much for the modern world either. Especially when I was younger. At my age now, I realize I am largely able to continue a reasonably active life due to modern medicine, a double edged sword.

Ireland is such a small island. I think about how huge the US is and how many different places we can go and live, which is probably not available on a small island. I can imagine your situation one could feel more trapped. There is a depth of traditional music, myths and culture in Ireland, much more so that in the US I think. It may be being edged out now. Do you feel connected to your Irish background or do you want to emigrate?

Myself, I like wilderness canoeing and classical and folk music. And as someone pointed out in this thread, modern life does make it easier to get in touch with others who are less fond of mass entertainment.


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19 Nov 2018, 1:10 pm

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The "modern" world sucks, yes.

If you were in Ireland in the 19th century, you would have picked this "modern" world over that world. Even the first half of the 20th century. Have you read "Angela's Ashes?"

I grew up in a time when a kid was "seen and not heard." This sort of thinking was still common in the 1960s. I feel fortunate we live in more "free" times nowadays---even though, of course, there's much debauchery about.

Yes, the moral values of the past were very solid and good. But, in reality, quite a few people didn't actually follow these "moral values."

This is coming from a person with a deep interest in nostalgia.




I know what you mean. It's true that we have more safety and comfort than ever before and that is something that's wonderful about the modern world. I just fear that most people have become a bit sedated by all of this and don't feel the need to improve themselves.



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19 Nov 2018, 1:11 pm

Yep. Complacency is a big problem. I agree with that.



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19 Nov 2018, 1:25 pm

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I'm not much for the modern world either. Especially when I was younger. At my age now, I realize I am largely able to continue a reasonably active life due to modern medicine, a double edged sword.

Ireland is such a small island. I think about how huge the US is and how many different places we can go and live, which is probably not available on a small island. I can imagine your situation one could feel more trapped. There is a depth of traditional music, myths and culture in Ireland, much more so that in the US I think. It may be being edged out now. Do you feel connected to your Irish background or do you want to emigrate?

Myself, I like wilderness canoeing and classical and folk music. And as someone pointed out in this thread, modern life does make it easier to get in touch with others who are less fond of mass entertainment.



I'm very glad to hear that you enjoy such wholesome activities! You do have a point about Ireland. It's a small country and nobody questions the culture of alcohol/drug abuse here. I don't want to emigrate because I hold out hope that the youth here will eventually become mature enough to not rely on substances to give them confidence. I feel connected to my culture and don't want it to be replaced by something that is completely cut off from its history. I may just eventually go and live in a rural area so I can be alone in nature.