What groups do you consider yourself part of?

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06 Jan 2019, 5:43 am

If any.

I am including anything that can be considered a group that you actively feel part of, from family all the way to species, if that's what you prefer.

Examples include: political ideologies, nations, sub-national regions, cities, clubs, interests, disorders/syndromes (though this one is not as common), any group that you use as some sort of personal label.

On this topic: I hypothesize that people with ASD's have a similar group capability as neurotypicals and others, but lack the tools and/or the strength of social connection to feel this group unity with other members. For example, someone with AS may put reason or preference over the decision of the group they are part of, even at the expense of their membership in the group.

A more specific example would be someone with AS being patriotic and feeling "at home" in the values and spirit of their nation, but not feeling like they can communicate with their countrymen, and preferring solitude to exhaustive attempts at connection, even if openly considering themselves a patriot.

What are your thoughts?



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06 Jan 2019, 5:50 am

I don't approve of the modern emphasis upon group identity. I think it promotes rigidity of thought and divides people. I especially don't approve of political labels ("liberal", "conservative", "socialist", etc.) because they promote fanaticism, intolerance and oppression. At most, I think I could only very vaguely accept any of those labels. I believe in human beings per se, rather than groups of them.



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06 Jan 2019, 9:30 am

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06 Jan 2019, 10:06 am

I might forget some but these at least:

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06 Jan 2019, 1:55 pm

I don't really consider myself to be part of any group, because while I may technically belong to a group (family, autistic, female, human-bodied, etc.), I still feel so different from other group members that it doesn't really feel like I actually belong in the group.


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06 Jan 2019, 2:14 pm

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06 Jan 2019, 2:27 pm

My various tribes have faded out or rejected me. I still have a formal nationality, but would not be used as an example of a typical citizen. I don't even have a passenger seat in my car.



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06 Jan 2019, 3:13 pm

My partner, my family, a band I've been part of for a long time, another band I've been in for a few years, the music community generally.

I feel like I'm some part of the socialist / anarchist / environmentalist movements, and whatever became of the old hippie thing, alternativism or whatever they call it.

I'm not patriotic, I don't feel very much "at home in the values and spirit of the nation" whatever that may mean. For one thing I don't think there's much of a consensus in the UK about values, and for another there's too much I dislike about the ways of mainstream people. I don't personally identify with being British but I have some sense of identity with being English. I'd miss England if I ever left for good, and although there's a lot about it I don't like, it can be a relief from the culture shock I've known in other places. I also see myself as being part of the human race and part of life on Earth.



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06 Jan 2019, 8:30 pm

Does anyone else ever get into identities in order to rebel against the NTs around you? I do this a fair bit, usually things I have some sort of legit claim to or else a political opinion.

Out of things I have been loyal to all my life, I identify as a female sexed person who has a masculine personality (although this has been described in as many ways as you can possibly think of over the years) and who has loyalty to my mother. That's it as far as static stuff goes.

And actually, I only started being a tomboy when I was 7. Before that, I just liked to play with all sorts of toys and wear whatever clothes were given to me and had no particular preference for girlish or boyish.

Right now, it's really to do with my paracosm. And me and my MC don't share everything in common. I have a certain loyalty to that world/her family etc.

What we share in common is:
we're female
we're Gemini (I'd say this doesn't matter, she says it does, there's 2 of us so that sort of implies it does matter)
we hate the same small town where she lived and I worked
a certain amount of ethnic background stuff
we're Celtic fans
our birthday

What I don't share with her and I'm proud of is:
most of my family
my home town and my specific home county
that I'm not a stereotypical girly girl and that's hard considering most women around me are and pressure me to be
my politics, although not proud enough to label it everywhere I go online and get into unnecessary debates
being middle class. I know it's not to be proud of but it gives me an identity. The sort of person who listens to radio 4.
that I'm a writer
that I'm an artist
that I'm autistic (I forgot this because I thought it was about how we're different to other people on here lol)

I'm not proud to be British. I don't feel English. But I DO feel like a native of my town and county, which are English. Not proud enough to risk my privacy and post the place names online.

I do feel like Irish diaspora (I have Irish roots) because I've actively invested in Irish stuff over the years. I'm proud to be the descendant of people who probably survived the famine.

I even feel more Scottish than English, I don't have any (recent, my surname's Scottish) roots there but football ties me in and my best friend when I was a kid came from Skye, most of the rest coming from Glasgow or having dads that did.

Does anyone else feel a bond to things which they can't really 'claim', from their paracosm/MDD world?



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06 Jan 2019, 8:46 pm

Autistic first and foremost

The rest in not any in particular order
American
New Yorker/Long Islander
Jewish
What I call the post-counterculture baby boomer generation meaning I was a child and tween during the height of Vietnam/Civil Rights/Riots/The Beatles etc. I came into significant awareness during Watergate and the 60's hangover.


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06 Jan 2019, 8:55 pm

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10 Jan 2019, 10:08 am

Church
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An Internet cat site I used to go to



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10 Jan 2019, 10:44 am

wrongcitizen wrote:
What groups do you consider yourself part of?
Well, according to This List, I was a Geek/Outsider in high school. Maybe I still am.



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10 Jan 2019, 1:28 pm

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