There is no way to live in a completely quiet environment?

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04 Feb 2019, 2:04 pm

This world is so insane, if outright war isn't forced upon oneself (in unstable countries), then it's a metaphorical sonic war due to paper walls, from a basic level cups which drop, doors banging, and then of course loud music, which is ironic because this the only way I have to cover all the other noises. Want to play some calm ost? Sure, as long as one wants all kinds of extraneous percussion, and I try to tolerate a lot until I can't and use a hammer to vent my frustration on the floor, as a sort of signal to stfu... do these people know how much noise they emit? Like, I'm reading there for hours barely moving and these people seem to renovate their house every day, and ffs why can't they put something in between doors that close by themselves? Oh yeah, a special f**k off to those manufacturers, like what reason on earth is there to make every door close like that? How incredibly annoying! Sometimes there are as many bangs as there are minutes, or even seconds. I put stuff there already so my cats could walk through, but why would anyone want a door to bang even if it's theirs, or even to open it every time? So, I put music on in response and guess what? They write an A4 page on how it's disrupting their life, they must think their own noise is utterly innocuous.

So, what is there one can do? From my mental calculations it seems hopeless no matter what. Like, I can only see the resolution of the above problems is if one lives in a large enough house that no one is nearby, in the middle of nowhere too which presents practical problems with transportation and delivery of food etc... but really, unless that house will end up like Havisham's, wouldn't one need someone to help with cleaning? And so, people again, I suppose it's better than noise from faceless strangers for no reason, but I already refuse what little help there may be cleaning mainly due to paranoia and general annoyance, I couldn't stand being near strangers like that... but really, there is no better usage for a whole house, is there? I don't suppose I'd need to use it more than the space I already have which is currently very disorganized, and what I always do is use technology, so really no need for space for that. But space to get away from randoms who just can't put a shoe in between automatic doors? Can't imagine a better usage for space than that.

Ultimately, who cares? It's illogical to go near people to amass a fortune in the first to specifically get away from people, so I'd rather do nothing in the first place. And no, I assume even those born to those kind of families wouldn't be able to get away from that very fact, well, unless they're so eccentric that their families do that to get rid of them I suppose. Is this, though, why classical music is often shown in such settings? Because anywhere else there is an idiotic percussion? Why rock was born? Sometimes I'd rather listen to Mozart than Metallica though, but I've a taste for both anyway.

Are there entire countries which build using non-paper walls, though? I wonder...



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04 Feb 2019, 3:02 pm

You've just described my thoughts exactly. Noise, for me, is unending torture. I have to put up with idiots playing loud, percussive music literally twenty-four hours a day, banging doors, coughing, spitting; I live by a main road used by (or so it seems) nobody but brain-dead motorcycle-riding attention seekers. My lifelong dream has been to buy a barge or cottage or log cabin and live in complete isolation from the rest of humanity. Living in an apartment means unending torment from other people's noise and general idiocy.

Like you, I can't understand other people's NEED for noise. I've actually heard people admit that, to give just one example, they leave the TV on just to avoid having a quiet room - such people are the best argument I know of for eugenics. It was Arthur Schopenhauer who said that one's ability to tolerate noise is in inverse proportion to one's intelligence; I think this is one of the best and truest things he said (and he was one of the very wisest of men). Read Schopenhauer's essay On Noise and you'll find it something like a mirror.



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04 Feb 2019, 3:08 pm

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I have long held the opinion that the amount of noise that anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity and may therefore be regarded as a pretty fair measure of it.

~ The World as Will and Representation (1819)

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The superabundant display of vitality, which takes the form of knocking, hammering, and tumbling things about, has proved a daily torment to me all my life long.

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Noise is a torture to intellectual people.

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Noise is the most impertinent of all forms of interruption. It is not only an interruption, but also a disruption of thought.

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Noisy interruption is a hindrance to concentration. That is why distinguished minds have always shown such an extreme dislike to disturbance in any form, as something that breaks in upon and distracts their thoughts. Above all have they been averse to that violent interruption that comes from noise.

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Occasionally it happens that some slight but constant noise continues to bother and distract me for a time before I become distinctly conscious of it. All I feel is a steady increase in the labor of thinking — just as though I were trying to walk with a weight on my foot.

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The general toleration of unnecessary noise — the slamming of doors, for instance, a very unmannerly and ill-bred thing — is direct evidence that the prevailing habit of mind is dullness and lack of thought.

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05 Feb 2019, 5:46 pm

I am the exact opposite. Absolute quite drives me nuts. In a quiet room I hear all of the little noises, people breathing, lips smacking, clothes rustling, a mouse moving across the floor, and most importantly a nice little ringing in my ears that tells me that there are no other noises to drown it out. I usually have at least a fan running to drown out the silence.


That being said, I don't like a lot of noises either. I find the footsteps of my upstairs neighbor, the motorcycle two blocks away, people walking along the sidewalk shouting, etc... almost as annoying as silence. It's a constant balancing act for me.


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05 Feb 2019, 5:48 pm

Simply responding to your post question: Certainly not if you have tinnitus..... :(