NTs using Aspie Behaviors as Manipulative Behaviors

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Ok, I was reading Greentea's thread and I came to the conclusion?

Truely, some NTs aren't dumb and they pick up things very quickly. Obviously sometimes, intitutively sometimes, logically sometimes, but that's not the point of this thread.

The point of this thread is to show how NTs can manipulate Autie behavior by following the Marc Segar method of behavior study.

I mean
1.) Using Aspie mannerisms to get some from someone
2.) Trying to appeal to our logic to prove us wrong in order to boost their self-esteem (and their perceived status among us, we are all equal in an autie world)
3.) Using methods of previous successes in order to get us to do something. I mean methods which worked on us in the past to justify their continual existence to justify their interest.
4.) Confusing self-interest with mutual interest in order to pursue self-interest. This is a common one.


Ok, there are so many others so feel free to add to the list, but what I really want to know is, has anyone else been a victim of this? NTs manipulating Autie behavior to get something for us?

Divide and Conquer is an example of an Aspie using an NT manipulation.

Yes, how dare they logically disprove unfounded delusions. I smell a conspiracy.
Wait, what?

I've never seen this.
I've seen people appeal to logic, successfully prove me wrong, and had no more effect out of it than being irritated at myself for being mistaken. Facts are neutral; it doesn't particularly matter who proves something so long as the proof is good. Anyway, they've got the same status I've got, and if they stick their noses in the air then that's their problem.
Doesn't that make sense? If something worked in the past, it may work again. Most people do that.
Yes, I've seen this. Often times people will project what they think and feel onto other people, and believe that others must want what they want. For example, I have often had people feel very pitying of me because I am asexual; they assume that I must be unhappily single because they would be (or are) unhappy to be single themselves.

Anyway, I'm not too easily manipulated because I generally taking into account others' opinions but don't necessarily follow them. I could probably be convinced to change my mind if someone had a really good argument (and have been in the past), but it wouldn't matter whether I'd read the argument or come up with it myself; same effect either way. I guess I'm just kind of self-contained as far as decision-making goes.

I had a (abusive) boyfriend who claimed to be autistic even though he wasn't. He could tell I was aspie and wanted to use that bond we had as being different to others.

He was so obviously non autistic I wonder if he was a sociopath or psychopath or something. He was really good at manipulating other people. To the point where it wasn't even normal NT behaviour anymore.

I fell for it until a few weeks after we started dating. By that point, I'd confessed lots of weird stuff about myself. I was scared to leave him as he liked to gossip and I didn't want it all around the uni.

NTs are manipulative; NDs are manipulative, albeit probably not as much. HUMANS are manipulative. This has nothing to do with neurotype.

Certain forms of ND are better at manipulation than NTs are. (I really mean some mental illnesses help you to 1 not care about who you manipulate and 2 be good at manipulation)

But autistic people are crap with people so we're not going to suddenly become able to charm everyone and manipulate them to our own advantage etc.

I mean, there are exceptions. Maybe if an autistic person's specialist interest is masking and they get really good at using it for their advantage. But it's unlikely.

It helps manipulative people to claim to be autistic when they're grooming autistic people.