"Heartlessaspergers.com" wtf is that?!

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21 Jan 2019, 11:05 am

Just found this website http://heartlessaspergers.com

Is this a supportsite for poor NT's or what is it?



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21 Jan 2019, 11:06 am

It's a trollsite.

Don't go there.



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21 Jan 2019, 12:48 pm

Some people just focus on the lack of empathy BS that they get confused with autism and psychopathy.


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21 Jan 2019, 2:15 pm

Hahaha i loled so much while reading this i guess that's what they call first world problems :roll:



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21 Jan 2019, 5:09 pm

It's a very emotionally disturbed person trying to lash out at the world. I recommend to ignore it and give it them power.



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21 Jan 2019, 7:09 pm

Fnord wrote:
It's a trollsite.

Don't go there.

It's just made by an angry women who didn't succeed in being emotionally manipulative towards her autistic ex. For this she tries to be it towards other people now. It is just a revenge side: "About the author: I had a year-long relationship with a man who did not disclose his diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome. I also had a female friend with the disorder who chose not to tell me." (http://heartlessaspergers.com/about-this-site/)
Why was she at all with this guy if he was so awfully? Why didn't she decide for an NT? It was her own fault not looking for an NT who accepts being emotional manipulated and being treated like sh*t by her because of this. :mrgreen:


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21 Jan 2019, 10:55 pm

quite an extreme wrote:

"It's just made by an angry women who didn't succeed in being emotionally manipulative towards her autistic ex. For this she tries to be it towards other people now. It is just a revenge side: "About the author: I had a year-long relationship with a man who did not disclose his diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome. I also had a female friend with the disorder who chose not to tell me." (http://heartlessaspergers.com/about-this-site/)...."

Hi, I didn't want to get involved in this discussion but after studying the website a little bit and reading this last message, I feel a responsibility to comment.

First, as far as I can tell, there is no evidence that the person who founded that site was in the relationship described on that site. It could be anyone, and anyone could make that material up to serve their own purposes. Will have to study it more, but imo the site is too waaay too professional in many different ways and from many different angles (not to imply that the information being given is not in some way skewed (which in many ways I think it is).

Case in point: Autists DO have empathy. We all know that.

"...Why was she at all with this guy if he was so awfully? Why didn't she decide for an NT? It was her own fault not looking for an NT who accepts being emotional manipulated and being treated like sh*t by her because of this.":

Yes. Thanks! Obviously true. Every pancake has two sides.

I will have to study this site further, but to me this whole production looks to be that of a therapist or possibly even a team of therapists.

My opinion at present time, though this may change if I study the site further--the view being given is not comprehensive and seems to me to be in many ways flawed and even ignorant, including some of the writing of the therapist who is touting her services to nt's, but this material should not be suppressed just because of finding some of the assessments being given to be false. Too much possibility to use as a learning tool by negating and inquiring into various false and/or subjectively slanted, over-emotional content.

As others have suggested, ignore it, or, another possibility, take the bull by the horns and appropriate the content and separate the wheat form the chaffs to help yourself and others.

And take a good look at therapists: All therapists do not have the same knowledge and understanding, and very therapist is not necessarily your guardian angel:-)



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21 Jan 2019, 11:51 pm

Just a website made by a woman who was abused by her ex who happened to have AS or claimed he did.


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22 Jan 2019, 10:46 am

It might be a angry ex-thing, but it's serious anyway and can make random people actually believe this is true:-(

Most aspies and NT's have empathy but everyone doesn't know when or how when to express it.

Many aspies and NT's lack sympathy though...


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22 Jan 2019, 10:48 am

Best ignored. Don't feed the troll.....



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22 Jan 2019, 10:49 am

Most NTs can tell when someone isn't anyway so they shouldn't date people who aren't unless they want someone who isn't.

Esp when it's autism and not psychopathy or something.

It's just a lot of bitter NTs, don't take it seriously. The NTs in my life like me. The NTs in my life, unless they're family, I don't tell them I'm autistic but I do act like myself and they like that I'm a quirky, intelligent type. I'm an artist though so can probably get away with it better than a saleswoman could.



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22 Jan 2019, 12:52 pm

I have been out of the loop in some ways for almost four years and not on this site, so I was completely naive about this, but it seems there is a growing anti-autism, or, better put. maybe, anti-aspie movement out there which is reaching many people and will be affecting public opinion and treatment of people with autism.

Agreed. there IS a trolling kind of affect behind the way certain material is being expressed, but imo it is technically not trolling in that it is not designed to get personal attention and/or get a rise out of people, though it may, on some levels for the instigator(s). be based on over-generalization, negative emotions and even hate (and/or if it is designed or encouraged by a particulat therapist, financial gain), and I suppose trolling does have some of these kinds of characteristics, but ignoring this kind of material in this particular case is not going to make it go away/ Imo, as said previously, better to grab the bull by the horns.

Ignoring this kind of movement (yes, it seems to be a movement) is not the same as ignoring a (particular) troll. I have not had time to study it yet, except looked at it a little more this morning. There are over seventy links on this site to all kinds of material. Again, I do not believe this one woman did this all on her own. I believe that blurb written by 'herself' about her so-called self has certain earmarks of being fictional and manufactured. but I could be wrong; will present my line of reasoning about why I think it is fueled by certain therapists later.

Again, I suggest to not push this kind of thing under the rug and think/feel that by doing so it will go away. This is what people did with the concerns, some of them legitimate, of people in the US who voted for the current US president, Focusing only on ones own concerns and not taking into consideration the views and concerns of others fueled a great big social backlash, and the same kind of thing is happening globally.

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22 Jan 2019, 1:01 pm

No, ignoring is the best course of action. If there was an Aspie community, we wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

Like it or not, all communities and organizations have detractors with public voices on the Internet that won't be silenced.



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22 Jan 2019, 1:09 pm

Best not to give these trolls attention.



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22 Jan 2019, 5:52 pm

The person who runs that site isn't a troll. She's a gremlin. Not the vicious green monsters in the movies, but the impish creatures in WW2 that would sabotage war vehicles. Except she's trying sabotage our lives. If we try to defend ourselves and say we're not the horrible and heartless sub-humans we think she and even show evidence of it, she won't care because she wants everyone to think we're horrible and turn everyone we care about against us. Actually she's more like a demon than a gremlin. She feeds on our pain, misery and suffering.

Well whatever, just don't go to her site. You will have no rights. Everything you say or do will be twisted around and flung right back at you in the NT world of unlaw. :P



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22 Jan 2019, 5:56 pm

Whatever else she may be, she is certainly a bigot -- prejudiced against ALL aspies because of her experience with ONE.

Sucks to be her, I guess.