Reading to oneself vs reading out loud

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25 Jan 2019, 4:46 pm

I have no problem reading in my head besides the attention problems. But when I need to read outloud I can't even see the text properly. Words/letters jump and I can't keep track of what word I read the last. My pronunciation suffers from it too and I tend to mix up words. Like I'm talking gibberish. Can anyone relate?



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25 Jan 2019, 9:41 pm

I relate. I'm dyslexic thou my reading level was a grade or two above my peers. I'm very slow at reading thou despite that & I HATED reading out loud due to anxiety & a tremor disorder that can affect my voice.


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25 Jan 2019, 10:35 pm

I despise reading out loud. I feel like a bad parent because I often refuse my daughter when she wants me to read a book, but I just can't.

Reading internally is fine for me and my preferred way of learning. I think words in go directly to pictures in my head and all is good. When I read aloud it takes another translation to make meaning and put it back into words. To do that continually and fast enough to actually read aloud is extremely draining for me.



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25 Jan 2019, 10:39 pm

I find it gets easier with practice. I can almost read stuff over the phone.



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04 Feb 2019, 12:15 pm

nick007 wrote:
I relate. I'm dyslexic thou my reading level was a grade or two above my peers. I'm very slow at reading thou despite that & I HATED reading out loud due to anxiety & a tremor disorder that can affect my voice.


Is it possible to be dyslexic when your reading level is a grade or two above your peers? I don't have a tremor disorder but when I'm reading out loud my voice shakes too. I guess it's because of anxiety.
I took this dyslexia test and I scored moderate to severe. But it's weird because I can easily read the text written?

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Reading internally is fine for me and my preferred way of learning. I think words in go directly to pictures in my head and all is good. When I read aloud it takes another translation to make meaning and put it back into words. To do that continually and fast enough to actually read aloud is extremely draining for me.


I can't learn just by reading, I have to write things down to learn. But I agree with the rest of what you said.

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I find it gets easier with practice. I can almost read stuff over the phone.


I hope so... I can't even talk on the phone so I don't think I'll ever be able to read stuff over the phone.



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04 Feb 2019, 12:38 pm

The words do jump about, and after a few seconds my voice starts buzzing in my ears. Quite tiresome :roll:


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04 Feb 2019, 2:47 pm

When I'm reading to myself, I often feel a need to re-read sentences and paragraphs in case I didn't properly comprehend them. This results in me taking a long time to read even relatively short books.

Reading out loud is often a nerve-wracking experience for me, particularly when it's in front of a large group.



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04 Feb 2019, 9:27 pm

komamanga wrote:
nick007 wrote:
I relate. I'm dyslexic thou my reading level was a grade or two above my peers. I'm very slow at reading thou despite that & I HATED reading out loud due to anxiety & a tremor disorder that can affect my voice.


Is it possible to be dyslexic when your reading level is a grade or two above your peers? I don't have a tremor disorder but when I'm reading out loud my voice shakes too. I guess it's because of anxiety.
I took this dyslexia test and I scored moderate to severe. But it's weird because I can easily read the text written?
I've been tested & certified at least a few times in my life as dyslexic. I think I compensate for my dyslexia by reading very slowly. My spelling & English(class NOT the language) were pretty bad compared to my peers & I put letters in the wrong places when writing or typing Like I'll spell The Hte sometimes or other similar things.


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04 Feb 2019, 9:39 pm

komamanga wrote:
nick007 wrote:
I relate. I'm dyslexic thou my reading level was a grade or two above my peers. I'm very slow at reading thou despite that & I HATED reading out loud due to anxiety & a tremor disorder that can affect my voice.


Is it possible to be dyslexic when your reading level is a grade or two above your peers? I don't have a tremor disorder but when I'm reading out loud my voice shakes too. I guess it's because of anxiety.
I took this dyslexia test and I scored moderate to severe. But it's weird because I can easily read the text written?

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Reading internally is fine for me and my preferred way of learning. I think words in go directly to pictures in my head and all is good. When I read aloud it takes another translation to make meaning and put it back into words. To do that continually and fast enough to actually read aloud is extremely draining for me.


I can't learn just by reading, I have to write things down to learn. But I agree with the rest of what you said.

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I find it gets easier with practice. I can almost read stuff over the phone.


I hope so... I can't even talk on the phone so I don't think I'll ever be able to read stuff over the phone.


That’s very interesting that you have to write things down to learn. I have to do that too. And it has to be handwritten or printed, not typed. When I’m studying I read it and then write it out in my own words/style. It just doesn’t sink in if I don’t write it. I’ve never met anyone else like that, so hello! (If I have to phone someone I make an outline of what to say first).



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04 Feb 2019, 9:41 pm

I'm auditory, so I don't have any trouble reading aloud. But I've often read that most autistics are "visual thinkers/readers," which might account for your increased difficulty with reading aloud. If your brain is trying to process the information on the page into a visual interpretation while also trying to express the information verbally, it might become confusing. You don't have trouble with the information itself (as in dyslexia), but the way you read is not verbally-based in a strict sense, so trying to interpret it as such results in difficulty understanding what you're taking in. That's only a guess, but it sounds plausible to me.


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04 Feb 2019, 9:50 pm

I can relate. I will read words that are not there, skip words or change the order.

I cannot read right now because I don't have the attention span to do so, except for things that are short. I can do some longer stuff if it is comprised of short paragraphs. Long paragraphs, forget it.


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06 Feb 2019, 12:36 am

AceofPens wrote:
I'm auditory, so I don't have any trouble reading aloud. But I've often read that most autistics are "visual thinkers/readers," which might account for your increased difficulty with reading aloud. If your brain is trying to process the information on the page into a visual interpretation while also trying to express the information verbally, it might become confusing. You don't have trouble with the information itself (as in dyslexia), but the way you read is not verbally-based in a strict sense, so trying to interpret it as such results in difficulty understanding what you're taking in. That's only a guess, but it sounds plausible to me.


This makes a lot of sense. I've tried to explain that when I read aloud I hardly understand what I am reading beyond each word as an individual. Usually people find that odd. I would definitely say that the way I read to myself is, in a way, not verbally based. The words get translated directly to images in such a way that I am watching a movie in my head as I read and seemingly not even reading the words themselves. I had learned that the visual thinking was part of the reason why I can have trouble communicating verbally, but I never thought to connect it to my trouble understanding things I read out loud.


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06 Feb 2019, 9:54 am

For me, reading aloud is problematic only when reading to an audience. I would read the text, but memory or recall would suffer of whatever I read. Reading aloud to myself only works well enough, yet sometimes I would still have to re-read a paragraph or sentence to get the meaning of the words.

Reading without speaking works well. Also, I vouch for the comment above that the more you read, the better you get at it. (Which makes me wonder if an AS brain could rewire itself to better process the visual and auditory perceptions while reading out loud if one would read aloud for daily for a longer period of time... Maybe someone has an answer?)



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06 Feb 2019, 11:12 am

I have no problem with reading silently in my mind, but reading out loud is difficult for me. However, in my case the problem is probably just a lack of practice and a stage fright.



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06 Feb 2019, 7:40 pm

AnneOleson wrote:
[When I’m studying I read it and then write it out in my own words/style. It just doesn’t sink in if I don’t write it. I’ve never met anyone else like that, so hello! (If I have to phone someone I make an outline of what to say first).


Me, too. Especially the phone outline. People always complain that I'm anti social because I don't return phone calls right away. They have no idea how difficult that is for me.