World Citizenship

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If given the choice, would anyone want to be given World Citizenship instead of citizenship of their own country?
I was reminded by this term after reading the speech that Ras Tafari (the guy that the Rasta's believe is the Messiah) to the UN Nations in 1963.

I guess a term that the UN may have used then. Interesting.
Personally, i think that the human race, if able to approach such things as government in a mature manner, with the aim of creating a real unified world for the aim of eradicating poverty and other issues, but also to maximise the efficiency of supplying resources etc. A unified world would be awesome, but alas, with the present state of mankind. Not a particularly likely scenario without perhaps a global crisis of epic proportions which i can't even imagine.

Still, who wants to join and become a world citizen as an equal with all the other people of the world.

It sounds appealing, but sadly could never happen without upheaval of some very strongly-held belief systems. Even if that hurdle could be surmounted, because of human nature, it'd be very likely to relapse to it's former self-segregated condition. It would be nice if such barriers could be overcome. It could really unleash humanity's potential, but it may be asking too much of the species.

I’d prefer World citizenship and already think in those terms anyway.

I wonder if all nations of the world were to offer people the option, as well as national citizenship.
As a way of working out how many people don't care about national identity.

Personally, i would sacrifice national identity straight away if it meant global economic stability, eradication of poverty, global police force, equality among all people on earth and ultimately world peace (as if were no longer nations, there would no longer be any reason to fight for economic dominance).

After all, the only people who really benefit from a global economic hierarchy of nations are the top wealth supremacist at the top of the rich lists. I guess, a bit like currency, money can be generated from fluctuating national markets while they exist. But the fluctuations are what cause the instability.

With these ideas to streamline
I wonder how many people would go for global citizenship?

Personally I am really saddened in how the world works. I am really saddened in how people from the 3rd world countries suffer, while there are people who have multi-billions, and spend all their time swanning around as if they are superstars. Personally, i feel it is disgusting. As surely billionaires see the poverty and the suffering.
How can such people ignore or condemn people, especially when it is the first world countries that have often caused their hardships. But there you go. Kings and Queens, of what? inequality. but what great people...

Haile Selassie and Ethiopia were special interests of mine when I was about twenty years old. I also began to be interested in Ethiopian marathon runners and the Olympics at the same time.

As for World Citizenship, I wouldn't like it.

What would the global retirement age be and how would retirement benefits be paid?

Wow, I never knew Ras Tafari said something like that.

But having utopic ideas I think is common among stoners.

Want to hear a joke?
When I used to smoke cannabis, I had this idea developed when I was around 20.
Just to rationalize over it when I was lucid to understand how crazy I was.

Really, I did not know someone had this idea before.
knowing another stoner did have it, I feel like drug is a powerful tool xD

Utopian thinking such as this does not have a good track record.

To be honest, I think the alternative isn't much better. In a world of inequality, there are often innocent victims.

The way the world presently works, works for some but if you were to travel to each country in the world and got every nations story objectively, you would realise that the present system doesn't work particularly well for quiet a few people either. I think that the statistics of how many people who live below the poverty line, would shock most people if they ever stepped outside their 1st world comfortable bubble.

11 facts about Global Poverty

I also note that i didn't mention utopia. I just think that the way the world works is sadistic and cruel, and ethically wrong.

if the robots and AI's take over, we all will be out of work. Although short term, i can't see the wealth supremacists who own the universe doing away with capitalism, free market or currency.

Although, in theory it could happen.

Just one observation is that although the neo nazi's and far right may all presently be voting for isolationism or separatism.

This move is usually a transitionary strategy that is part of what the world powers call the great game.
The ultimate goal for all factions is to achieve complete global dominance, but under their political ethos.
apart from of course, people who follow democratic political movements.

It would be possible to achieve a unified global rulership that is still democratic in nature.

Can't read the site because of our benevolent EU overlords. But as far as I know, aggregate poverty is going down worldwide, as a consequence of things like free trade and the spread of industrialization. Countries like India and Brazil have huge populations of poor people,. but they're also some of the worlds top polluters owing to a rapidly growing industry that is not yet on the level of first world countries. As industrialization increases, poverty goes down. And as the industry refines, pollution goes down.



This is utopian thinking, whether you say the word utopia or not.

Fact is, of you compare the flawed present to a hypothetical ideal future such as the one you presented, then any amount of bloodshed is justified because the idea, however unreachable, will always purport to eventually have saved enough future lives to justify the bodycount.






The world will become increasingly automated, yes. But the scifi world where the AI and the robots take over completely is quite distant to say the least, if at all even feasable.

And Is that a whiff of communism I smell? You're not going to get rid of poverty by abolishing currency.




It really wouldn't. One of the things I particularly don't like about the EU is that power should never be concentrated that far away from those that are being governed. If the laws I have to abide by were created in Stockholm, that's three hours away by train. I could go theere and hold them to account for what they're doing. I have no chance of going to Brussels to protest laws I nevertheless have to follow. So, where would you place a global government so as to be accessible to the entire world?

Exactly.

I’m a citizen of the US first.

I am a citizen of the world, too.....but that’s secondary. It does not supersede my US citizenship.

Kraftiekortie,

I also am a citizen of the U.S., first and foremost. I would love to travel to other countries and am interested in seeing the world in a fun way.

We have become too "Balkanized," everybody wanting to separate themselves out. I am of German and Italian ancestry and love my traditions from both cultures, but I'm American first.

That's what Trump wants to do....isolate the United States. Make it an adversary state.