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07 Jul 2019, 2:06 am

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The uneven cognitive profile (splinter skills) is a point we often overlook. Just because a person can speak well or excels in a particular subject such as math does not mean they are able in all areas. A person with high functioning autism or Asperger Syndrome may appear more capable that he/she really is. Executive functioning skills ( the ability to prioritize tasks, organize, or see the individual steps in a routine), are often impaired in the autism population. The lack of these skills can make independent living difficult. Don’t assume a person can organize his day just because he has high intelligence. We often take away supports for people that we perceive as “able”, not realizing there are deficits in other areas that we think are easy.


https://autismawarenesscentre.com/lesso ... n-simpson/


I'm lucky in that I get very good support. Others aren't so fortunate. A lot of people including some health professionals have a " You're good at x so you must be good at y" mentality.



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07 Jul 2019, 5:12 pm

Theory of multiple intelligence



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07 Jul 2019, 5:20 pm

firemonkey wrote:
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The uneven cognitive profile (splinter skills) is a point we often overlook. Just because a person can speak well or excels in a particular subject such as math does not mean they are able in all areas. A person with high functioning autism or Asperger Syndrome may appear more capable that he/she really is. Executive functioning skills ( the ability to prioritize tasks, organize, or see the individual steps in a routine), are often impaired in the autism population. The lack of these skills can make independent living difficult. Don’t assume a person can organize his day just because he has high intelligence. We often take away supports for people that we perceive as “able”, not realizing there are deficits in other areas that we think are easy.


https://autismawarenesscentre.com/lesso ... n-simpson/


I'm lucky in that I get very good support. Others aren't so fortunate. A lot of people including some health professionals have a " You're good at x so you must be good at y" mentality.

It also goes the other way - some people receiving support for their poor executive functioning are treated as dumb by an assumption that if you need help dressing up then you surely can't count your money.
People tend to make assumptions about one's overall abilities, implying they are similar in all areas. Individuals with ASD totally don't fit that model.


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07 Jul 2019, 6:19 pm

^ Good points. I think it's one reason why my having a learning difficulty has never been explored by the health professionals . Being very good verbally is taken as being very good in other ways. My stepdaughter is more aware that I find some things difficult than any professional has ever done by his or herself .



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07 Jul 2019, 6:34 pm

https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/ shows strengths and weaknesses. I've left the working memory part out as that is especially prone to the practice effect. I've also left out FSIQ because of not doing any of the wm.


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07 Jul 2019, 7:09 pm

Interesting article and comments.
Yes. I think that in the area that i live, even the clinical psychologist has no clue as to how disabled having Asperger Syndrome or being high or very high functioning people are.

In the area that i live, people with low functioning Autism are given all forms of support.
To the extent where they are even housed in sheltered accommodation, given help from psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers key workers, and even people who are paid to look after them, drive them around and help them with day to day tasks.

Not that i think it is wrong, but in contrast to how they treat people such as myself who are very high functioning, it is scandalous especially in a system that to the greater extent are ignoring people with high functioning autism as being disabled.

So without support in any form the disabled person who has deficits in areas of communication, capacity to cope with stress, lack of ability to cope with stress and who is prone to sensory overload meltdowns has to attempt to fight for their own cause against people in a antiquated and backward political system that is extremely hard to interface with and even harder to get any form of success with due to the general covert self serving and dishonest nature of politicians.

For the past 4 years i have been trying to get sense out of such people to no avail. With no help.

I would say that the way that the support services treat people with high and very high functioning autism is discrimination, but because almost all the people who work in the area have an equally poor understanding of autism
no one realises what ignorant people they are.

I also note, as a fair amount of people have a fair work load, they are limited as to how much time they can give to people in terms of support. So inevitably the high and very high functioning autism people suffer.

Also, i note that the high and very high functioning people with autism spectrum disorder can be very demanding
and very stressful to help. This is because of their intelligence, which quiet often is of a higher level than those who paid to support them.

I believe that one of the reasons why people with high and very high functioning autism are given little or no support is because when given the choice to support A: a low functioning person with Autism, getting paid to go round to their house to make beans on toast, or something equally mundane and easy.
or B: try and help a very high functioning person with ASD work out the best strategy to take on the entire government and health service to get them to recognise and support their condition, which will be challenging for even the most intelligent support worker and to some extent dangerous, as politicians and heads of health services generally don't like people poking their noses into their business and generally don't like people making demands of them especially when it comes to embarrassing accusations of discrimination and abuse. Such activities that could very much result in loss of employment for the care workers, not due to unfairness on their part but due to the corrupt nature of abuse of power by those in authority that such care workers would be investigating.

Which option do you think the care workers choose?.... even if they do understand the nature of the inquiry and agree on principle... Um.... Beans on toast it is then.... But not for the high or very high functioning autism sufferer...



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07 Jul 2019, 8:00 pm

A lot more precious lil "people" grossly underestimate my intelligence, than overestimate


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