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firemonkey
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28 Nov 2019, 5:44 am

Is there any link between the field of view and Asperger's/ASD/autism ?

The cognitive speed test at https://www.testmybrain.org/index.php tests that .


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As you can see mine isn't very good,to say the least! I think age may be a factor , but I'm not sure to what degree .



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28 Nov 2019, 7:38 am

19.6 - you scored higher than one in ten people who took this test.

Another feather in my cap, I must keep doing these tests :P



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28 Nov 2019, 8:02 pm

domineekee wrote:
19.6 - you scored higher than one in ten people who took this test.

Another feather in my cap, I must keep doing these tests :P


Ummm….

You "scored higher than one in ten folks who took the test"?

Hate to rain on your parade, but...

Doesn't that mean that ONLY one in ten scored lower than you?

Which would mean that 9/10 folks scored higher than you?

I hate to burst your balloon, but …

ONE of us is misinterpreting that statement. It could be me. But I don't think that its me.



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28 Nov 2019, 8:19 pm

Hey come on, I scored higher than
one in ten people! Anyway poor field of vision isn't something that you notice :P



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28 Nov 2019, 9:04 pm

Ok

you're a "glass is half full" kinda guy! :D

In fact you're beyond that.

you're a "glass is one tenth full" kinda guy! :lol:

Why not? :)



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28 Nov 2019, 9:17 pm

There might be a relationship. I queried the Internet and found the following:

Although social cognitive deficits have long been thought to underlie the characteristic and pervasive difficulties with social interaction observed in individuals with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), several recent behavioral and neuroimaging studies have indicated that visual perceptual impairments might also play a role. People with ASD show a robust bias towards detailed information at the expense of global information, although the mechanisms that underlie this phenomenon remain elusive. To address this issue, we investigated the functional field of view in a group of high-functioning children with autism (n = 13) and a paired non-ASD group (n = 13). Our results indicate that the ability to correctly detect and identify stimuli sharply decreases with greater eccentricity from the fovea in people with ASD. Accordingly, a probe analysis revealed that the functional field of view in the ASD group was only about 6.62° of retinal eccentricity, compared with 8.57° in typically developing children. Thus, children with ASD appear to have a narrower functional field of view. These results challenge the conventional hypothesis that the deficit in global processing in individuals with ASD is solely due to weak central coherence. Alternatively, our data suggest that a narrower functional field of view may also contribute to this bias.

Source: Can They See It? The Functional Field of View Is Narrower in Individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder

Since some of these terms I was unfamiliar with, I looked them up.

The first term was "functional field of view" = The functional field of view is the area around the fixation point from which information is being brielly stored and read out during a visual task. When there is too much information, the useful field contracts to prevent overloading of the visual system.

The second term is "fovea" = A small depression in the retina of the eye where visual acuity is highest. The center of the field of vision is focused in this region, where retinal cones are particularly concentrated.


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28 Nov 2019, 9:30 pm

I took the general test which had lots of different tests. Most I scored with results that I was higher then one person who took the test, but one one test I scored higher then 0 people that took the test! Oops!
The last two I got slightly higher then the average and that was thinking about the past and something else, but most I scored below agerage.



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28 Nov 2019, 10:38 pm

In the old days, many high-functioning autistic people were thought to have “perceptual problems.”

“Perceptual problems” were considered to be a hallmark of “minimal brain dysfunction.”

Have you ever heard of “minimal brain dysfunction,” Firemonkey?



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29 Nov 2019, 8:26 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
In the old days, many high-functioning autistic people were thought to have “perceptual problems.”

“Perceptual problems” were considered to be a hallmark of “minimal brain dysfunction.”

Have you ever heard of “minimal brain dysfunction,” Firemonkey?



I've heard of it, but know very little about it.



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29 Nov 2019, 8:32 am

From the lab in the wild site.


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I think you did these tests MG .

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29 Nov 2019, 9:19 am

Minimal brain dysfunction is a debunked notion...but at least somewhat applicable to something like NVLD.

I believe it is worth researching...because it sort of paved to way the some present-day concepts.



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29 Nov 2019, 10:00 am

I know that the NVLD project are making an effort to get NVLD included in diagnostic manuals . It's something I 95%+ think I fit .



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29 Nov 2019, 10:33 am

firemonkey wrote:
From the lab in the wild site.


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I think you did these tests MG .

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Yes. That is it. Your results are the exact opposite to mine. The last two I scored highly on, but all the rest I did terrible with! Haha. Maybe we should work together! Hahaha!



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29 Nov 2019, 12:13 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
domineekee wrote:
19.6 - you scored higher than one in ten people who took this test.

Another feather in my cap, I must keep doing these tests :P


Ummm….

You "scored higher than one in ten folks who took the test"?

Hate to rain on your parade, but...

Doesn't that mean that ONLY one in ten scored lower than you?

Which would mean that 9/10 folks scored higher than you?

I hate to burst your balloon, but …

ONE of us is misinterpreting that statement. It could be me. But I don't think that its me.


I am reading that the same way.

For every 10 people that took the test you scored higher than one of them. 9 people in 10 scored higher than you.

That's how I read it anyway.



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29 Nov 2019, 12:20 pm

harry12345 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
domineekee wrote:
19.6 - you scored higher than one in ten people who took this test.

Another feather in my cap, I must keep doing these tests :P


Ummm….

You "scored higher than one in ten folks who took the test"?

Hate to rain on your parade, but...

Doesn't that mean that ONLY one in ten scored lower than you?

Which would mean that 9/10 folks scored higher than you?

I hate to burst your balloon, but …

ONE of us is misinterpreting that statement. It could be me. But I don't think that its me.


I am reading that the same way.

For every 10 people that took the test you scored higher than one of them. 9 people in 10 scored higher than you.

That's how I read it anyway.

Yeah. Its like admitting to scoring in the bottom ten percentile on an exam, and saying that "yes I flunked, but one I ten folks flunked worse than I did, so it's....a feather in my cap!"



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29 Nov 2019, 12:42 pm

harry12345 wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
domineekee wrote:
19.6 - you scored higher than one in ten people who took this test.

Another feather in my cap, I must keep doing these tests :P


Ummm….

You "scored higher than one in ten folks who took the test"?

Hate to rain on your parade, but...

Doesn't that mean that ONLY one in ten scored lower than you?

Which would mean that 9/10 folks scored higher than you?

I hate to burst your balloon, but …

ONE of us is misinterpreting that statement. It could be me. But I don't think that its me.


I am reading that the same way.

For every 10 people that took the test you scored higher than one of them. 9 people in 10 scored higher than you.

That's how I read it anyway.

Me too! I just like the way they put it, it could have said " you score was in the lowest 20%"