Aspergers and innocence, naivete, gullability, etc

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So I've been told most of my life that I am naive in a lot of ways, even though I get the world. I've also been told I come across as so innocent, like someone who would never hurt a fly. Sometimes I am gullible, and sometimes I am manipulated. It's tough when I end up in tougher parts of town because people immediately tell I can be taken advantage of. I was never sheltered or anything as a child, I do get the real world.

Is there some kind of correlation with people with Aspergers, like myself, and some of these qualities I've mentioned, or is it part of the condition?

I believe aspies tend to be like this at first, but with time you kinda adapt yourself to the egoism, manipulation and greed of the world...

When I was a teenager (and even a young adult), I didn't think that my friends actually did drugs or had sex... I thought it was just for TV. I didn't think adults broke the law on purpose, or that anyone I trusted could lie.

I was completely shocked that all of these things were true. I think that being naive is quite common with Aspergians. We tend to project our own standards for ourselves (which are normally unusually high) onto those around us.

NT's are bad asses

I'm a very innocent and unworldly person and I hope that never changes. I don't want the world to harden me.

i'm getting better

what tends to happen i think is that your naive like that until a series of bad things happen to you. then you adjust to that reality and learn to live with it. then some people find your adaptation paranoid and some people find your adaptation understandable.

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Yeah. But most people don't think think I'm innocent. I've been accused of being a psychopathic serial killer many times before.

It's just kinda hard to find a middle ground between being overly paranoid and being too naive and trusting.

Indeed, and the earlier you get those bad things, the better you deal with the world later, aspies with overprotective parents have much more trouble adapting to the general people later on.

That's exactly what happened to me. I was brought up initially on a very nice, quiet and respectful housing estate. I was sheltered from the world and it's harsh realities. I never came across any problems while I lived on that estate. When we moved to a rough estate on the other side of town, I started to get beaten up just because I walk oddly (I have various neurological movement problems), mugged, shouted at and assaulted on a regular basis. My Granny died of cancer around the same time so I lost faith in God and religion (which used to be a BIG part of my young life), I got bullied so severely at school that I developed mental health problems, and who can ignore all the awful stories in the news? That's why I am not the little naive innocent kid I was, but don't get me wrong I wish I sstill was.

yeah, and that middle ground doesn't even actually exist. it's just something that people perceive to exist. either naivety or paranoia can be destructive, but i wonder, since whether or not you're either paranoid or naive depend upon how effective either mentality is in helping one deal with the world in a productive manner, then aren't both problems of logic and nothing more?

Naive? Yes.

Gullible? Sometimes.

Innocent? I’m going to Hell.

I always know when I'm being took advantage of, and I always know when I look in a vulnerable state, but I just try to wriggle my way out of it in my own time, since I find it extremely difficult to stand up for myself. So, in another way, I may look stupid from the outside, but I'm not from the inside.

It was definitely due to my being overly logical: I thought that if I didn't do certain things, then how is possible that other people could?

Yeah, getting jaded and whatnot. I go through phases of being pissed off and jaded, and then back to my honeymoon phases of idealism.